Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 09:00:43 -0600 From: "Scott Anderson" <nemesis@crypto.tk> To: "Mike Hoskins" <mike@adept.org> Cc: "f-stable" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: cvsup (was Re: Problems with make buildkernel) Message-ID: <000701c29e01$6aeb8110$0300a8c0@HYRULE> References: <20021206133222.J98893-100000@fubar.adept.org>
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The simple matter is that even though there is extensive documentation, sometimes just docs alone don't cut it. I took the message as targetted at me (as it blatantly was) because of the subject line. And since I'm the one that wrote the original message asking for help, then it seemed your message (whether addressed to the list or not) was aimed at me. You (of all people; Mr. Smart Guy) should know that documentation, no matter how good it is, never covers every possible problem that could arise. There are so many different configurations that it's impossible to cover them all. I'm sure you've had a time or two in the past, while compiling a program of some sort, where the documentation simply didn't address the issue you were having. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you, Mr. Perfect, never have problems because you always read documentation. The fact of the matter is that I, personally, don't go looking for help for a problem (expecially in a mailing list) unless I feel that I've exhausted my other options (and yes, reading documentation is important to me to). The validity of the Handbook and FAQ were never questioned by me, so I don't see where to get off preaching to me about the invaluable tools at my disposal. Oh, and one other thing; If you're going to speak in metaphors, at least try to make sense shoe-man. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hoskins" <mike@adept.org> To: "Scott Anderson" <nemesis@crypto.tk> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: cvsup (was Re: Problems with make buildkernel) > On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Scott Anderson wrote: > > I'm sorry, but your polite message about RTFM was rather unfounded. > > If the shoe fits, wear it. The fact that you seem to take personal > offense to a message addressed to the list (I don't see you in the To: > field...) seems to imply you're wearing the shoes now. > > > You are very correct that the handbook approaches these issues very nicely, > > and the process is easy to follow. I do, however, hate to disappoint you, > > because I do RTFM. I came to this mailing list like many people do (for > > help), and so far, your message has offered the least help of them all. > > I don't understand your logic. "Yes, the handbook details what I need to > do... Yes you pointed me to the handbook and relevant examples... No, > you are not helpful." We'll agree to differ on our definition of "help". > > The truth will set you free, as they say... And there's a lot of truth in > the Handbook and FAQ. Don't take it personal if people refer you to > documentation, there's a lot of it and a lot of people don't read it. > That's reality. > > > Thanks for nothing > > I'll save that for the next time. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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