Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 03:40:20 -0700 From: Craig Cowen <craig@allmaui.com> To: David Talkington <dtalk@prairienet.org> Cc: "freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Check Point FW-1 Message-ID: <39E04F14.B3CE226C@allmaui.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010080405010.6829-100000@sherman.spotnet>
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Well I sure have stirred up a topic. Unfortunately, who ever made the point of covering their (The suits) asses by means of accountability, hit the nail on the head. That and not being dependant on me. But I argue on that point that there are many out there who could utilize IPF. More important, if the person who will be administering FW-1 can't, then he/she dosen't know enough about the practice. Opinions, like assholes (and this list proves what I am about to say), everybody has one. Here is mine. NT has no reason on this planet except for people who want to reboot their workstation once a week instead of once a day. As a matter of fact, given the choice between an NT box and a Mac, I would go back to bussing tables. Unix is where it is at, Solaris, BSD, Linux, whatever, there is no equal and there never will be. As for 1-800-helpmeIseebluescreens, they are dummer than the poeple who choose to purchase the product in the first place and have only cheat sheets created by the engineers who know what will fail because the Suits above them had to rush their over priced product to market so that they could go IPO and not under. Just my Opinion/Rant/Frustration Craig David Talkington wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >What is really the difference is being able to dial 1-800-FIREWALL and > >have someone help you out, etc. > >Darren > > Yeah, I wonder if my (item b) instinct was unfair. David Pick > mentioned herein the possibility that the company might not even WANT > the expertise to be in-house, and while his scenario was pretty ugly, > it suggests a more benign one ... if the company goes with an > open-source solution, and you're the only one on staff who knows how > to use it, they are then dependent on your talent. Great for you, but > bad for them, if turnover is high. At least a purchased solution > ensures some kind of support no matter who leaves the company. > > Your thoughts on this? Seems like a valid concern, and not one that I > had considered. (Perhaps I'm naive ... ) > > - -d > > - -- > David Talkington > Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative > 217-244-1962 > dtalk@prairienet.org > > PGP Key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > iQEVAwUBOeA/xb1ZYOtSwT+tAQEDVwf+JUhT2WUwbDEJv0shacEfksTScESJb3rI > Wjv61ZeD/bWrac000SIRakmnUROUecSAq86wIRxX7xj/dcRakBX8TpUUxSwwyrWM > Pzpy83J4KC81WOvJDS9NUWdJjaagez1edEyyL9PGYGeiBZyglPT4lx/8QsT4GiJl > ONVOcYmvflAYkmFKRQmE+zBEOsj/qo/g5+64KzmHlEMI00/4yRHvAa2OzETPlLb3 > sFCtChRgnfQBt20cfGTVerykISFvMcL5jQ4Silp7NzWM+qRC7K2BYI77qaRB8Bds > tIl3OftUAurg/A23pSWljIybHNFbgV3DPm1bk22oMTfJoTmn4/omVg== > =Ms+U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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