Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:47:47 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Cc: Christof Schulze <christof.schulze@gmx.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd7, radeon, xorg-server -> deadlock or so Message-ID: <4B728ED3.7040309@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1002092016380.11722@wonkity.com> References: <6101e8c41002091524q25a7e026u585e575eb4f1589c@mail.gmail.com> <4B71FFA8.3070306@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <201002100202.59954.christof.schulze@gmx.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1002092016380.11722@wonkity.com>
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On 02/10/10 03:41, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Christof Schulze wrote: > >>> The situation is heavily unsatisfying, since one need an expensive >>> AMD/ATi Radeon card to gain non-3D poor functionality, where a cheaper >>> one should be do the same - but the cheaper ones don't work. Even if >>> one >>> uses AMD64, the situattion is worse and I have no reason using >>> Linux-driver on a FreeBSD box. Hope the situation gets cleared in the >>> nearest future. It's a kind of deadlock. As I said, either spenig a lot >>> of money for a working RV770 based AMD graphics card with poor >>> functionality or nothing so far, since most smaller RV730 chips aren't >>> supported properly by the most recent drivers. >> To be fair - my ATI X300 has always worked. It is a cheap card with >> low-end >> performance but it is perfectly fine for regular desktop-use. > > The older chipsets are better supported because the newer ones are, > well, newer. If you haven't bought a video card yet, look at the > radeon(4x) man page first. > > Unfortunately, that doesn't help if you already have a newer card, or > a notebook. > > The other choices are Intel, where they don't have standalone video > cards, or nVidia, which has a full-featured blob and a really > bare-bones open driver. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA You said it. Alternatives? Barely. Having Intel-X58 based mainboards for our workstations, there is no onboard-Intel solution. Speaking of nVidia - 64Bit FreeBSD-support isn't mature and, as far as I know, not yet arrived, but underway, but this is in the future and isn't subject of any consideration if I need to make my choices now. Our department orders, in most cases, a bunch of systems completely equipted also with graphics boards. In many cases, there is no reason, economically, buying outdated graphics boards which are 5 years old and older, despite the fact that many shops do not offer them. On Linux, most of those modern ATi/AMD video cards not working with X11 on FreeBSD/amd64 work on Linux due to the fact most Linux derivates have a more modern OpenSource Xorg environment, including 'cutting' edge DRI and drivers. The alternative is to play with the well supported 32- and 64-Bit blob even AMD/ATi offers for Linux. Regards, Oliver
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