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Date:      Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:25:42 -0600
From:      Chris <racerx@makeworld.com>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Need help *fast*
Message-ID:  <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNCENCEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNCENCEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton
>>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:08 PM
>>To: Broder Mizzérable
>>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: Need help *fast*
>>
>>
>>Broder Mizzérable wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello there.. i'm switching to FreeBSD ' now '... i did try to use the
>>>floppy installation way. but it seems like all my floppy's are 50kb to
>>>small =/ ... so i was wondering .. is it possible to use a CD ' That
>>>does already has stuffs on it but still boot it and download FTP wise
>>>.. as you would do as on the floppy installation ... i do ask this cuz
>>>i dont have any free CD's atm ..
>>>
>>
>>I'm not quite following what you mean? You tried the standard tools to
>>make the floppy's, like rawrite and dd? AND you did format these disk
>>before hand to check that they didn't have bad sectors?.... I have a big
>>box of floppy's that have been siting in the closet and every time I
>>need one I have to go through 20 or so bad ones that have bad sectors or
>>invalid media to find the one perfect one. floppy diskettes are junk
>>thats why we stopped using them.
>>
> 
> 
> No, floppy diskettes are definitely not junk, there is nothing wrong
> with the medium except that it doesen't hold enough.
> 
> I used to work at a large software developer, Symantec formerly Central
> Point Software (ie: PCTools)  The last floppy runs of PCTools had at
> least 20 5.25 diskettes and about 15 3.5 floppies and Central Point
> did their own duplicating.  There was no way in hell that floppies
> that were anywhere near as bad as you imply could have been used for
> commercial duplication, the reject rate would have been too high.
> 
> The problem today is that the floppy diskettes you buy in the
> store today are not manufactured under the high tolerances that
> they are supposed to be, and the floppy disk drives are also
> slopped together.  I don't know how the commercial duplicators
> do it if any are still doing floppy runs, probably none are
> anymore.  My guess is the few people still manufacturing them are
> using old ratty equipment that probably should have been retired
> years ago.
> 
> Ted

Good Lord! PCTools!!! Now yer talking! Even back when 95 came on like 30 
diskettes... or was that OS/2?
-- 
Best regards,
Chris

The wrong quarterback is the one that's in there.

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