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Date:      Fri, 5 May 1995 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina)
Cc:        FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers)
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/news/inn/pkg PLIST
Message-ID:  <199505051950.MAA09447@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <199505051836.LAA01898@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at May 5, 95 11:36:58 am

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> 
> Let me rephrase this.
> 
> What does renaming /var/spool/news to /var/news fix?
> 
> Are we just doing it to follow our OWN convention?
> 
> /usr/spool/news was broken because /usr/spool was stupid for diskless machines
> /usr/spool/mail was broken because /usr/spool was stupid for diskless machines
> 
> /var/spool/mail was NOT broken

See below, BSD changed this long ago.

> /var/spool/news is NOT broken

Agreed.

> 
> /var/mail is stupid, but it was done in the 4.4 distribution, so we leave it
> 	  as is because most programs will look there these days when
> 	  auto-configuring

It was done before 4.4, this goes back to Net/2 and possibly farther, 
/var/mail is not a spool area as it is an end point for mail.

> /var/news is stupid, we're doing it ourselves, we'll have to fix every piece
> 	  of news related software that looks for /var/spool/news and we're
> 	  just making porting and maintenance that much more of a pain.
> 
> Again, what are we fixing?

Agreed.  And /var/spool/news is a spool area, it has both incoming and
outgoing data keep in there that is handled by daemons.


> We need to look at the cost benefit ratio of making gratuitous changes.
> 
> Why are we trying to make FreeBSD = !BSD?  If I wanted to run !BSD, I'd run
> Linux (vomit).

Be carefull it what you label FreeBSD change and what you label CSRG 
changes.  It was CSRG that moved /usr/spool/mail to /var/mail.

-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                   Custom computers for FreeBSD



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