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Date:      Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:30:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Blaz Zupan <blaz@amis.net>
Cc:        Josef Karthauser <joe@pavilion.net>, mckusick@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006280022470.5243-100000@beppo.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0006280828200.65568-100000@titanic.medinet.si>

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It looks to me that this maybe was addressed in revs 1.49-1.51 of
ffs_softdep.c. The authors (peter, kirk) can confirm/deny.

I run softdeps on a lot of filesystem- most with not *that* heavy load, but at
least one make world a day. The PR you report should in fact cause a failure
under that. I think it's been fixed.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Blaz Zupan wrote:

> > Your comments are a bit unfair. *You* haven't been running the currently
> > released product with Softupdates. You have excellent reasons to be concerned
> > because of your previous experience, but your statement of "A number of times
> > this year I've lost whole filesystems on an SMP..." is misleading at best.
> 
> How about
> 
> 	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17122
> 
> I remember hitting this on a couple of 3.4 boxes and had to turn off
> softupdates (those were production machines). It was not even a SMP machine.
> The PR is still open, and I guess still present in 4.0 (I vaguely remember
> hitting it on a 4.0 box as well, where I forgot to turn off softupdates). The
> PR is talking about the machine crashing every 1-3 days, mine was crashing
> more like twice per month. Since that time I don't turn on softupdates on any
> of my production boxes.
> 
> Unfortunetlly I cannot contribute anything to the PR itself, as:
> 1. All the machines that exhibited the problem where production machines.
> 2. My home work box (running 5.0-CURRENT) doesn't exhibit the problem,
>    probably because it is being turned off every day and there is no real load
>    on the machine.
> 3. When the machines crashed, I didn't have a debug kernel running so the
>    crashdumps would be mostly useless.
> 
> Blaz Zupan,  Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia
> E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325
> 
> 
> 



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