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Date:      Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:02:45 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>
Cc:        YongHyeon PYUN <pyunyh@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dhclient cause up/down cycle after 239356 ?
Message-ID:  <201208230802.45030.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20120823013534.GA31015@server.rulingia.com>
References:  <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <201208221535.01598.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120823013534.GA31015@server.rulingia.com>

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On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:35:34 pm Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2012-Aug-22 15:35:01 -0400, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >Hmm.  Perhaps we could use a debouncer to ignore "short" link flaps?  Kind of
> >gross (and OpenBSD doesn't do this).  For now this change basically ignores
> >link up events if they occur with 5 seconds of the link down event.  The 5 is
> >hardcoded which is kind of yuck.
> 
> I'm also a bit concerned about this for similar reasons to adrian@.
> We need to distinguish between short link outages caused by (eg) a
> switch admin reconfiguring the switch (which needs the lease to be
> re-checked) and those caused by broken NICs which report link status
> changes when they are touched.  Maybe an alternative is to just ignore
> link flaps when they occur within a few seconds of a script_go().
> (And/or make the ignore timeout configurable).
> 
> Apart from fxp(4), does anyone know how many NICs are similarly
> broken?
> 
> Does anyone know why this issue doesn't bite OpenBSD?  Does it have
> a work-around to avoid resetting the link, not report link status
> changes or just no-one has noticed the issue?

To be clear, I don't like this hack.  If there is a way to fix this in
the driver (e.g. not report the link state changes during a reset) that
would be far preferable.

-- 
John Baldwin



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