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Date:      Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:55:51 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Nicholas Basila <nbasila@epcot.revenio.com>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, jonas.bulow@servicefactory.se, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Thinkpads
Message-ID:  <3A2694A7.F4E3A40C@softweyr.com>
References:  <E50E76D112D8D311907E00508B63B941BE8F6F@minnie.revenio.com> <000701c05958$09651ef0$3103000a@gaston> <20001129154748.A47200@echunga.lemis.com> <3A2536A7.EA05719B@epcot.revenio.com> <3A253B51.758D7AF9@softweyr.com> <3A253C9A.EBD363D7@epcot.revenio.com>

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Nicholas Basila wrote:
> 
> Wes Peters wrote:
> 
> > Nicholas Basila wrote:
> > >
> > > I think that IBM ultimately wants to sell these laptops any way they can ...
> > > That means with non-MS operating systems. I just wonder how long it will
> > > take.
> >
> > Don't be silly.  If they think it will generate more support calls than
> > revenue, they will step over us silly BSD users in a heartbeat, chasing
> > after the next 50,000-unit corporate sale.
> 
> Ah, but I'd bet that they'd be willing to support RH Linux at some point.

a) that point is exactly when somebody asks for 50,000 units with RH
   preinstalled.

b) they already support Caldera on a few of these models, and RH on other.  IBM
   refuses to embrace a single Linux vendor, and is spreading the wealth among
   a variety of distros.

> If RH Linux will run on it, FreeBSD probably would, too.

As long as we identify the driver changes required to support IBM's bizarre
hardware and incorporate features to support them in our code too, yes.

> Of course, I know they'd never ever support FreeBSD

I certainly don't know that, but I'm probably a lot more patient about these
things.

> but having it work on these laptops without issues would be good.

Just buy a "known good" laptop and be happy.  Sony and Dell seem to be the
most represented brands at BSDCon, followed by the good models of StinkPad.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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