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Date:      Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:26:17 -0500
From:      DeadZen <deadzen@deadzen.com>
To:        jsha <johann@terrabionic.com>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: good things to say
Message-ID:  <5.2.0.9.2.20040316081837.01ecb600@mail.persian.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040316083725.GA85813@ninja.terrabionic.com>

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That's a nice list if not a bit over enthusiastic, some of the things that 
you listed as being easy
aren't necessarily easy... postfix, erp, crm, apache... software like that 
needs much configuration.

FreeBSD is a foundation and framework for allowing trusted tools to work 
cooperatively in a stable,
secure fashion and is generally open source. Excluding of course some GPL 
utilities which we
BSD people tolerate mainly since we tend to need them. One of the points I 
agreed with the most
is that it may reduce your staff, but it's a multipart point.
You're
1. going to have trouble finding people who aren't saturated by linux ideology.
2. going to have trouble finding people capable of administering large 
networks.
3. going to have trouble finding people who can maintain work by previous 
maintainers.

that's probably 3 of the most common problems. This is a world where 
software engineer,
point & click happy child and gui dependent tinkerer tend to be classified 
into the same category.

I think the best comparison would be

  FreeBSD x 1000 computers = Cheap
  Windows x 1000 computers = Hahahahah oh ahahah... or how about 1000 
computer virus infection HAHAH whew

Thank You.




At 09:37 AM 3/16/2004 +0100, jsha wrote:

>my dear open sourcerers,
>
>i am writing this letter to ask for your assistance in advocating
>open source and in particular freebsd for the enterprise.
>
>today i've assembled some information relating to the ever-increasing
>benefits of our community, and i was hoping for input from you all
>juniors and seniors out there -- again i have a case here where some
>microsoft fans is in need of enlightenment -- and along with advanced
>visualization (lightwave + flash) i tend to make _the_ open source
>advocation which i'll distribute freely to anyone who is or ever will
>be in the same situation as me.
>
>please note, i tried making this document as simple as possible.
>
>thank you.
>
>
>******************************************************** [begin]
>
>         |
>         |
>         | WHERE WE ARE
>
>         Disadvantages:
>
>         - Having a slow network
>         - Using Microsoft Windows
>         - Paying for Closed Source software
>         - Viruses/worms/trojans
>
>         Advantages:
>
>         - Having a number of computers
>         - Having access to the Internet
>         - Being open to new ideas
>
>         |
>         |
>         | FREEBSD
>
>         Disadvantages:
>
>         - Might reduce your staff
>
>         Advantages:
>
>         - Free to anyone
>         - Created the Internet
>         - Worldwide development
>         - Reliable and secure
>         - Sophisticated
>
>         * Contains over 9000 free softwares.
>
>         * Easily install any of the services that is critical to
>           the Internet: Apache (websites), MySQL (databases), Postfix
>           (e-mail), OpenSSL (encryption)
>
>         * Comes with powerful and free ERP/CRM solutions, office and
>           multimedia tools.
>
>         * Because of it's unique architecture, no virus has ever
>           successfully penetrated its shields.
>
>         * Easily emulate, or "impersonate" Windows, so software
>           native to Windows can run in a virtual environment.
>
>         * Designed and implemented with remote management in mind.
>
>         * Its open source ensures that these development efforts will
>           be continued well into the future.
>
>         |
>         |
>         | COMPARISON
>
>         Reliability, FreeBSD:
>         - Extremely robust
>         - Servers remain active for years
>         - Filesystem optimized for high performance
>         - Excellent memory management
>
>         Reliability, Windows:
>         - The infamous "Blue Screen"
>         - Uses a lot of system resources
>         - Servers remain active only for a few months
>         - Filesystem gets fragmented
>         - Memory gets corrupt
>
>         Performance, FreeBSD:
>         - Choice for high performance network applications
>         - Outperforms ANY operating system on equivalent hardware
>         - The largest server on the Internet runs FreeBSD,
>           including Yahoo, Qwest and even Hotmail!
>
>         Performance, Windows:
>         - Adequate for routine desktop apps
>         - But, it is unable to handle heavy network loads.
>
>         Security, FreeBSD:
>         - Subject to massive auditing
>         - Completely deny access with kernel security levels
>         - Packet filtering firewall system
>         - Network intrusion detection tools
>         - Extensive other built-in security modules
>         - Rarely reported on CERT
>
>         Security, Windows:
>         - No guarantee
>         - Being closed source, there is no way to fix or diagnose
>           any of the security compromises regularly published
>           about Microsoft systems
>
>         Compatibility, FreeBSD:
>         - Run both BSD and Linux binaries
>         - Supports network connection with Windows machines
>         - Emulates virtual Windows environments or Windows binaries
>
>         Compatibility, Windows:
>         - Excellent hardware support
>
>         |
>         |
>         | WHERE WE WANT TO BE
>
>         In a position where information is managed and organized
>         into powerful databases. Open Source provides the database
>         MySQL -- a free alternative with equal performance to
>         the Windows database Oracle, whose drawback is its high
>         price.
>
>         Based on the right database you need the right ERP+CRM
>         solution. You'd pretty much want to choose Compiere, to
>         fully integrate the "front office" with the "back office".
>         Compiere all areas of customer relationship management
>         and enterprise resource management.
>
>         For anything else, members of the Terrabionic consortium
>         will apply their advanced programming skills (C/C++, Perl
>         and Python) to make our request come true.
>
>         General management:
>            Customers            > Database
>            Affiliates           > Database
>            Tickets              > Database
>            Schedules            > Database
>            Website              > Database
>            Forum                > Database
>
>         ERP/CRM management:
>            Order process        > Database
>            Point of sales       > Database
>            Accounting           > Database
>            Inventory            > Database
>            Distribution         > Database
>
>********************************************************** [end]
>
>--
>j.
>
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