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Date:      Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:01:38 +0200 (SAT)
From:      John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>
To:        cjc@FreeBSD.ORG (Crist J. Clark)
Cc:        doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tar not following links now?
Message-ID:  <200208090601.g7961cN92156@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <20020809053552.GA79890@blossom.cjclark.org> from "Crist J. Clark" at "Aug 8, 2002 10:35:52 pm"

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> On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 11:12:47AM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > I recently updated several machines to -stable (OpenSSL :) and found
> > that tar nolonger seems to follow links.
> > 
> > [cain 11:06] ~/projects/rrd >ls -lad /home
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  9 Mar 15 12:26 /home -> /usr/home
> > [cain 11:09] ~/projects/rrd >ls -lad /usr/home
> > drwxr-xr-x  16 root  wheel  512 Mar 28 10:05 /usr/home
> > [cain 11:05] ~/projects/rrd >tar -Pcf - /home/ | tar -tvf - 
> > lrwxr-xr-x root/wheel        0 Mar 15 12:26 2002 /home -> /usr/home
> > [cain 11:08] ~/projects/rrd >uname -a
> > FreeBSD cain.gsoft.com.au 4.6-STABLE FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE #10: Tue Aug  6 11:49:28 CST 2002     doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CAIN  i386
> > 
> > As opposed to my older system
> > [chowder 11:10] ~ >ls -lad /home
> > lrwx------  1 root  wheel  9 Aug 20  2001 /home -> /usr/home
> > [chowder 11:10] ~ >ls -lad /usr/home
> > drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  512 Jul 20 17:04 /usr/home
> > [chowder 11:09] ~ >tar -Pcf - /home/ | tar -tvf -
> > drwxr-xr-x root/wheel        0 Jul 20 17:04 2002 /home/
> > drwxr-xr-x radar/radar       0 Aug  9 10:35 2002 /home/radar/
> > [ .... ]
> > [chowder 11:09] ~ >uname -a
> > FreeBSD chowder.gsoft.com.au 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #12: Fri May 10 15:54:54 CST 2002     darius@chowder.gsoft.com.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHOWDER  i386
> > 
> > It seems like a bit of a POLA violation especially as the man page
> > doesn't appear to mention and option to get the old behaviour back.
> 
> The "new" behavior is the correct behavior. I'm not sure when or why
> things were broken in your 4.6-PRERELEASE example. The option you want
> is the '-h' option.

That won't give the same behaviour. With the old tar, links inside
wasn't followed by default. The problem is with the startpoint. With
the old tar there was a difference between these two invocations if
/home was a symlink:

tar cf /dev/null /home
tar cf /dev/null /home/

The first would just backup the symlink and the second would backup
where /home points to. Symlinks inside of it would still not be
replaced with their targets.

John
-- 
John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org

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