Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:34:23 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc Message-ID: <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTikXQmzE4r8wNbxp_Xp7u-5URj66DrOfC1JaK5jA@mail.gmail.com> <20101004122325.11342p9v1rnwp6w4@webmail.leidinger.net> <AANLkTimYCA3rRHgbtjPX=sGHd2mXURHBotNB=KHJi9AR@mail.gmail.com> <20101004123629.GA4308@straylight.ringlet.net> <AANLkTimWMUFrj1OfUVEaPKactWr9sWJhvVW2MfDPSB7T@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com>
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Quoting Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> (from Tue, 5 Oct 2010 =20 01:30:00 +0200): > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 10/4/10, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:01:45AM +0000, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>>> On 10/4/10, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote: >>>> > At least status-mailq is still useful with other MTAs, e.g. if you u= se >>>> > postfix (and assuming the mailwrapper is configured correctly), this >>>> > should still work. Depending on the setup of the aliases, >>>> > backup-aliases will still work too. I haven't checked for the other >>>> > ones. >>>> >>>> If you want to keep some "old" files, you just need to press `n' inste= ad >>>> of `y' >>>> when deleting files. You are not forced to run make delete-old at all. >>> >>> On the other hand, doing this (skipping those files) on each and every >>> system >>> update (say, on a development or testing machine) could get a bit... bo= ring >>> - >>> not to mention that at some point you'll learn to "oh, just say no", an= d >>> then >>> forget to remove something important. >> >> Oh! I see... I want it in black. > > Hold your horses there ... get it to work as expected and then, > _and_only_then_ you can start raising your finger and accussing poster > of bikesheding ... > As it stands, _it_sucks_ and I have already pointed it out before > without much success (something as useless as telnet wasn=C2=B4t deleted = a > not so long time ago) ... Peter Pentchev=C2=B4s point was a completely > valid one. As the one who wrote the functionailty: The delete-old stuff is =20 designed to delete stuff which was installed by an installworld (or =20 similar) before, but is not installed by installworld (or similar) =20 now. As there may be old programs around which depend upon such a file =20 or directory, you have to explicitely tell if you are ok to delete it =20 or not (it is the responsability of the administrator to make sure =20 everything is OK). If you are sure no program still depends upon it =20 (make check-old), you can specify -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES to delete =20 everything without being asked (see "man build"). As we've read in this thread that the files I would like to keep are =20 not installed by an installworld if the corresponding option is =20 specified, the patch is 100% correct and Peter and you want to use =20 delete-old for something it was not designed for (and I should discuss =20 somewhere else to install the files I talked about even if the =20 corresponding option is specified). Bye, Alexander. --=20 Detroit is Cleveland without the glitter. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137
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