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Date:      Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:40:37 -0400
From:      Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net>
To:        Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: EFI GELI support ready for testers
Message-ID:  <AFC9FE3D-AFB3-42A5-9D54-A54F1CC87A7F@metricspace.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1606011623410.3503@laptop.wojtek.intra>
References:  <519CC1FC-84DF-4710-8E62-AF26D8AED2CF@metricspace.net> <20160528083656.GT38613@kib.kiev.ua> <d6b96a6c-4e92-35a5-e78b-cc674b6d2f25@freebsd.org> <20160528172618.GB38613@kib.kiev.ua> <6A9DADE0-B214-424A-BB14-0B0848F0D08D@metricspace.net> <20160529091827.GD38613@kib.kiev.ua> <46B3F9E2-A25B-4F9D-B35F-11AC782495B1@metricspace.net> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1606011623410.3503@laptop.wojtek.intra>

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On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:29, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net> wrote:

>> It's undesirable because the whole point of ZFS is to have one ZFS volume=
 for the whole system.
> This sounds more like a religious dogma than anything else.
>=20
> what if i run single disk (or mirrored 2 disk) system, no ZFS but i want e=
verything encrypted by GELI and want only ona partition?

So do it.  I don't see the problem.

> Will you write special bootloader that would be hidden unencrypted on geli=
 volume?

No, the boot block lives either on the ESP or the boot sector.  Same as it a=
lways has.

> Will you write 10000 special bootloaders to cope with 10000 cases of confi=
guration FreeBSD admins want to have in the world?
>=20
> Or maybe - in the future admins would not be allowed to decide and there w=
ill be only one allowed storage configuration - ZFS volume occupying all dis=
ks, with bootloader designed for that one case?

These are just straw-man arguments, and nobody has suggested anything of the=
 sort.=



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