Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:52:21 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Sean Eric Fagan <sef@kithrup.com> Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PHK: "Shut up and go away quietly" Message-ID: <11338.943091541@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:38:23 PST." <199911200938.BAA22687@kithrup.com>
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Sean, This is my first, only and last message on this issue in public: It is a copy of the message I sent to you in private when you persisted claiming maintainership of procfs after four core members had mailed you saying that any such claim had long since expired. Poul-Henning >To: sef@kithrup.com >Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/miscfs/procfs procfs_vnops.c >In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:46:15 +0100." > <199911181846.TAA58992@freebsd.dk> >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:09:53 +0100 >Message-ID: <991.942959393@critter.freebsd.dk> >From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Sean, > >This is a personal message, it has absolutely nothing to do with >procfs or any other technical issue; It is about people. > >Please realize that since you got side-tracked from contributing >to FreeBSD we have probably doubled or trippled the number of >developers and even larger factors have multiplied our users. > >These new people don't know you. They may or may not have seen >your name before. They have no idea about your past doings in the >FreeBSD project. > >Their perception of you is entirely based on the emails you have >sent recently. > >And, I'm sorry to say, you don't come across as anything even >remotely like the able and capable person old hands like me know >you to be. > >Quite the contrary, you come across as some old veteran who has >been sleeping on the porch for as long as anyone can remember, >until somebody says the magic word and he springs into action and >starts pontificating about how "youth to day isn't what youth was >when *I* was young, now let *ME* show you how you should... etc etc". > >Needless to say, people ignore him completely in a polite way. > >In other words, nobody is listening to you anymore, because they >have no reason to attach any particular weight to your opinion >and therefore an email saying simply "This is bad" (even in twice >as many words) gets totally ignored. > >If you want to regain your "standing" in the FreeBSD public, you >need to work a lot on your email style and you need to dedicate >significant amounts of time to just that. > >Alternatively (and I would recommend this): Concentrate on MAPS >and similar projects which earn you praise and admiration and don't >ruin your FreeBSD legacy by half-hearthedly attempting a comeback. > >FreeBSD is not the same as when you left, it's become established >and sedate. People want peace and quiet now, nobody boldly goes >anywhere, in fact these days we have trafic lights to prevent >anybody from doing just that... > >Poul-Henning >ex-adventurer now city-council member for the slightly-silly-party. > >-- >Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member >phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." >FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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