Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:32:33 +0200 From: "Willie Viljoen" <will@unfoldings.net> To: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>, "Johnson David" <DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: One of your employees are very rude. Message-ID: <002c01c3eae8$ac3591d0$0a00a8c0@arista> References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0402021124290.7454-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net> To: "Johnson David" <DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Cc: <advocacy@FreeBSD.org> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: One of your employees are very rude. > On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Johnson David wrote: > > > It is unfortunate, but there is nothing to do but tolerate it. "FreeBSD" > > doesn't have the legal authority to dump people off of other private forums. > > > > Just using the name "FreeBSD" isn't good enough. But what if it were? > > What if Microsoft had the authority to kick you off of Slashdot because > > you said "Windows sux"? > > I think the complaint is not about being rude. But that the person that > was inconsiderate was known as some developer @freebsd.org. Sadly, this is again the nature of IRC. There's nothing that prevents anybody from logging into any IRC server and setting their address to whatever@freebsd.org in order to make themselves look really special... IRC servers and nickname registration services never really check the authenticity of e-mail addresses people provide, for large networks, it would probably cause serious overhead anyway. The ones that do, mostly just check to see if the domain they used is there, or has an MX, some others do a callout to see if the local part is in that domain, but this is very rare. Even in that case, the person could just type the address of somebody else @freebsd.org, and it would appear to be valid. There's no IRC server or registration service in the world that would actually send an e-mail to confirm this, generally, IRC networks really just don't care. Please try to keep in mind that IRC is a public medium, and has recently been overrun by, well, the public. As an example, we have a network here in South Africa called ZANet, on this network, exists a channel calling themselves #FreeBSD. In truth, the only actual FreeBSD users on ZAnet populate its #linux, because #FreeBSD belongs to a group of people who can scarcely operate Windows, but saw some cool daemonette pictures from some BSDcon on some geeky-soft-porn website, and now want to be "cool" too. If you want to make sure this doesn't happen, stay away from IRC. Ask the mailing list instead, here, atleast, people try to be reasonably nice. Stay away from IRC, since the "digital revolution" it's only been good for one thing -- desperate teenagers seeking dates or social approval or what ever... If you're older than 15, don't use IRC, you won't find much help, or interesting conversation for that matter, on an IRC network. My two cents Will
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