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Date:      Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:32:51 -0700 (MST)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Pentium lockup fix in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <199711140232.TAA12159@rocky.mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.971113212010.8472T-100000@sasami.jurai.net>
References:  <199711132335.QAA11405@rocky.mt.sri.com> <Pine.BSF.3.95q.971113212010.8472T-100000@sasami.jurai.net>

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> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Nate Williams wrote:
> > I think we need to give Jordan a big noogey if he indeed said that.  For
> > many people with shell machines, running 'crashable' in unacceptable,
> 
> If you're running shell machines where a user can execute arbitrary
> non-approved code, your box is root compromised already.  (or will be)

Not!  Just because a user can run a compiler doesn't mean you're root
compromised.  If you really think that it's impossible to secure your
system you've never been a system administrator of a student system
whose only purpose in life is to break root, where you learn to make a
secure system. :)


Nate



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