Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:01:10 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> To: Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "dangerously dedicated" Message-ID: <200003222301.QAA34410@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:44 EST." <14552.57732.739752.665443@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <14552.57732.739752.665443@onceler.kcilink.com> <4.3.2.20000321160347.00ad9b20@207.227.119.2> <Your message of "Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:26:20 EST." <38D50DBC.88FA8E4D@glue.umd.edu> <38D50DBC.88FA8E4D@glue.umd.edu> <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003151354390.1980-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> <200003190433.VAA04863@harmony.village.org> <200003212255.PAA26291@harmony.village.org>
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In message <14552.57732.739752.665443@onceler.kcilink.com> Vivek Khera writes: : Why is using /dev/da0a stupid? FreeBSD is the only system I've : encountered that totally locks up (during a 3.3-RELEASE install from : CD) when there is no fdisk disk label. Is that why it is stupid? I didn't say that using da0a is stupid. I said using dangerously dedicated mode is stupid. Based on the number of times I've shot myself in the foot trying to use dangaerously dedicated devices over the years, I'll never use them again. : BSD/OS and Linux (RedHat 6.1) both deal with the lack of an fdisk disk : label just fine, and BSD/OS doesn't even require one, letting you use : the direct unix partitioning scheme. I much prefer it that way as it : just makes sense on a dedicated box, which is what all of mine are. FreeBSD lets you do this as well. Are you sure that Linux doesn't require fdisk disks? Linux/i386 doesn't have another form of disk partitioning. You always use fdisk labels. And this goes back to at least 0.98p14 or so. Of course, I've not tried any linux newer than 2.1. I have 0 experience with BSD/OS. I've just had bad luck with Dangerously Dedicated devices over the years. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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