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Date:      Sun, 03 May 2009 20:55:51 -0600
From:      Jamie Gritton <jamie@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Nikos Vassiliadis <nvass9573@gmx.com>
Cc:        virtualization@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: VIMAGE
Message-ID:  <49FE5937.3000606@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <49FDDD02.3090803@gmx.com>
References:  <20090413.220932.74699777.sthaug@nethelp.no>	<49E57076.7040509@elischer.org>	<20090424202923.235660@gmx.net>	<200904242249.27640.zec@icir.org>	<20090425133006.311010@gmx.net>	<20090502131259.31160@gmx.net>	<49FC78DA.2010201@elischer.org>	<20090503103244.44760@gmx.net> <49FDD9B9.7090403@elischer.org> <49FDDD02.3090803@gmx.com>

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Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
>> Peter Cornelius wrote:
>>> Re...
>>>
>>>> The situation is that right now jail and vimage are
>>>> orthogonal (ish) however in the future,
>>>> vimage will become a set of options on jail.
>>>
>>> Ah. SO it probably is kinda useless to try and stick a couple of 
>>> jails 'inside' a vimage.
>>
>> no you will be able to nest jails.
>> some of them may have the vimage options and some may not.
> 
> What about vimages without jails?
> I can imagine some applications of VIMAGE which completely
> lack user-space processing. If I recall correctly a jail
> exists as far there is at least one process associated with
> it. Would that be feasible?
> Having a vimage with no processes?

Jails will be able to exist without processes, and in fact with nothing
more than a vimage attached.  But much of vimage only makes sense in
conjunction with processes - a process attached to a vimage can see that
vimage's network interfaces.  There are still things like routing that
work independent of processes I suppose, but it seems to me much what a
vimage does is provide the network stack to the processes it's tied to.

- Jamie



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