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Date:      Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To:        Ken Lui <klui@cup.hp.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Question about arp entry in /var/log/messages
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.03.9906041533390.13154-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199906040728.AAA29672@cup44ux.cup.hp.com>

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Ken Lui wrote:

> > > Jun  1 21:14:05 black /kernel: arp: 10.0.0.1 is on lo0 but got reply from
> > >    00:80:c8:fd:88:0d on ed1
> > 
> > _lo0_?  Hm!  Can I see ifconfig -a, please?  Try to keep the whole message
> > around since I'm trying to keep track of this.
> 
> Yeah, I thought about that but did so after I sent the last reply.
> 
> ifconfig -a
> ed1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 15.75.136.174 netmask 0xfffff800 broadcast 15.75.143.255
>         ether 00:80:c8:fd:90:ae 
> ed2: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
>         ether 00:80:c8:fd:88:0d 
> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 

Okay, this is quite helpful, thanks!  

I thought you may have misconfigured lo0 but it doesn't appear to be the
case.  

That's an odd netmask for ed1.  255.255.252.0?  A typo, perhaps?

> > Do you have proxy arp turned on in the cisco?
> 
> I checked it and it doesn't have proxy arp capability. I did notice
> that its netmask is incorrect for its IP. IT did this for me so I
> never questioned it. Changing its netmask didn't eliminate those
> entries. The frustrating thing is these messages are have a certain
> delay before they show up in /var/log/messages.

Well, screwed up netmasks will cause these sorts of problems, so double
check your netmasks all the way around.

> Odd how after I've ping'ed some of these IPs, I get the following
> with netstat -nr
> 
> Routing tables
> 
> Internet:
> Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use     Netif Expire
> default            15.75.136.169      UGSc        4       13      ed1
> 10/24              link#2             UC          0        0      ed2
> 10.0.0.1           0:80:c8:fd:88:d    UHLW        0       28      lo0

This is downright wierd.  Have you rebooted recently?  This should not be
attached to lo0.  On my ssytems it's attached to the proper network
interface.

> 10.0.0.2           link#2             UHLW        0        2      ed2
> 10.0.0.3           link#2             UHLW        0        2      ed2
> 10.0.0.4           8:0:7:6f:1d:fe     UHLW        0       15      ed2    828
> 15.75.136/21       link#1             UC          0        0      ed1
> 15.75.136.169      0:40:f9:13:69:d5   UHLW        5        4      ed1    764
> 15.75.136.174      0:80:c8:fd:90:ae   UHLW        0       24      lo0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1        4      lo0
> 
> Maybe a dumb and naive question but... when I was running Linux I
> didn't have to run gated or routed. Should I be running it?

No, absolutely not.

> > > While ed2 (net 10) has the following (start of dump):
> > > 21:11:48.500727 ce573230.cup.hp.com.1040 > 15.75.12.3.domain: 1785+ (60)
> > > 21:11:48.572032 ce573230.cup.hp.com.1041 > 15.75.12.3.domain: 6263+ (43)
> > 
> > ?? What is that stuff going that way?
> > 
> > Let me clarify this.  The interfaces are listed next to the IPs they're
> > assigned, if I'm getting you right.
> 
> Yes. For instance, ce573230 should be on ed1, black should be on ed2.
> However, green is multi-homed with 1 ethernet interface so it really
> rests on both ed1's and ed2's network; but the confusing thing for
> me is they both share one wire.

No, this is *wrong*.  No one behind the router should be responding to
15.* addressing.  Turn off the multihosting on green and plug it into only
one network.  It may be gatewaying the network data around and causing the
loop I'm seeing.

Doug White                               
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