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Date:      Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:      twig les <twigles@yahoo.com>
To:        "Dalin S. Owen" <dowen@nexusxi.com>, Laurence Brockman <laurence@fluxinc.com>
Cc:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: hiding OS name
Message-ID:  <20020708175214.31781.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020708111122.A33379@nexusxi.com>

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Portsentry may help (/usr/ports/security/portsentry I
believe).  Won't hide the OS, but it may shut down
scans before they get that far.  <shrug>, never tested
it that way.


--- "Dalin S. Owen" <dowen@nexusxi.com> wrote:
> 
> A very easy way to fool nmap/queso:
> 
> 
> add:
> 
> options         RANDOM_IP_ID
> 
> in your kernel
> 
> and then add:
> 
> net.inet.ip.ttl=68
> 
> to your /etc/sysctl.conf
> 
> queso reports a differnt OS each time, and Nmap has
> no clue at all.
> 
> :)
> 
> Oh, one more thing, go in to the source for sshd and
> rip the "FreeBSD"
> from the bannertext and maybe lie about what version
> of OpenSSH you have.
> 
> I have found this really effective.
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 08:11:37AM -0600, Laurence
> Brockman wrote:
> > I think that what the original poster was trying
> to get at was when being
> > scanned by something like nmap using the OS
> detection (Or other tools), it
> > would show no OS.
> > 
> > This would mean changing the way the networking
> layer responds to certain
> > packets (ICMP, tcp sequencing, etc) and I'm not
> sure if there is anything
> > out there for FreeBSD (Never bothered to look).
> > 
> > I know there are kernel patches for linux that
> actually change the stack to
> > emulate other OS's, thus fooling these OS
> detection tools.
> > 
> > Laurence
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren Pilgrim" <dmp@pantherdragon.org>
> > To: "Asep Ruspeni" <ruspeni@mti.itb.ac.id>
> > Cc: <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: hiding OS name
> > 
> > 
> > > Asep Ruspeni wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am newbie in FreeBSD OS, but i have lot of
> concerned in securing
> > system.
> > > >
> > > > I have questions like this :
> > > >
> > > > - how can i set-up FreeBSD, so when it being
> scanned, it's show no
> > operating
> > > > system name + version.
> > > > - is there any articles i colud read about
> securing freeBSD such as the
> > > > question i ask above.
> > > >
> > > > thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > Hiding your OS name and version will do nothing
> to increase security,
> > > because the majority of people who scan for
> vulnerable hosts just do
> > > bulk scanning, trying their trick on everything
> they find.  They know
> > > (or just don't care) that you can't reliably
> determine the OS without
> > > shell access and even then you can be tricked.
> > >
> > > That said, what you're looking to do is change
> the banner on the
> > > daemons you're running.  How you do this is
> specific to each daemon.
> > > As usual, RTWP, JTML, RTFM, RTSL, etc.
> > >
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> of the message
> > >
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Dalin S. Owen
> Nexus XI Corp.
> 
> Email: dowen@nexusxi.com
> Web: http://www.nexusxi.com/
> 
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