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Date:      Sat, 24 Aug 2002 08:40:16 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how to compute the skew between TSC in SMP systems ? 
Message-ID:  <37248.1030171216@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:54:59 PDT." <200208232154.g7NLsxsi088258@vashon.polstra.com> 

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In message <200208232154.g7NLsxsi088258@vashon.polstra.com>, John Polstra write
s:
>In article <30560.1030138677@critter.freebsd.dk>,
>Poul-Henning Kamp  <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>> In message <200208232135.g7NLZZqx088123@vashon.polstra.com>, John Polstra write
>> s:
>> 
>> Still, the feature has come in handy when debugging certain
>> >multiprocessor situations where I really needed to know the relative
>> >ordering of events taking place on both CPUs.
>> 
>> Right, you might get away with that in tightly controlled circumstances,
>> but it would probably be far smarter to use the counter in the
>> IOAPIC (exists on all SMP)
>
>You mean the timer in the local APIC, don't you?  I don't recall
>that the IOAPIC has one, and if it did it would probably be somewhat
>expensive to read it.

Right, I remembered wrong: the messed up and put no timer in the ioapic,
so for SMP forget about the APIC.

>> or the ACPI counter even in such cases.
>
>The trouble with both of those counters is that they don't give you
>the 1-CPU-cycle resolution that you get with the TSC.  For some kinds
>of performance evaluation you really want to be able to count CPU
>cycles.

I generally find BB profiling much more attractive in such cases since
it tells you (basic block of) instruction by (bbo) instruction how many
times something was executed.

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