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Date:      Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:20:03 -0500
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        Gary Jennejohn <garyj@jennejohn.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: library problems with -CURRENT
Message-ID:  <426E23E3.3020404@centtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <200504261109.j3QB90Hr003349@peedub.jennejohn.org>
References:  <200504261109.j3QB90Hr003349@peedub.jennejohn.org>

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Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> Holm Tiffe writes:
> 
>>Gary Jennejohn wrote:
>>
>>>It's not in UPDATING, but a change was recently made (can't say exactly
>>>when) which affects %gs/%fs. If you're using -current then you really
>>>should watch the commits, too!
>>>
>>
>>Yes we should watch the commitlogs, but it's really bad behavior to brake
>>that many of the installed Applications and not to mention this fact in
>>UPDATING.  That's what IMHO version numbers for.
>>
> 
> 
> If you'd been watching the commits then you would have seen that the
> problem has already been resolved in -CURRENT and RELENG_5.

I hate to be negative, but the general rule I've always seen (and I 
believe it is even in the handbook) is that you should subscribe to 
-CURRENT, and read UPDATING, since that is where notes like this would 
be.  I've never once heard anyone say that I should be watching the 
commits too.

See, the thing is, that I'm running -CURRENT not because I can whip out 
C code in a snap or help write the newest Flux Capacitating Fligamabob, 
but because I can help test and find bugs, debug, etc.  So I may 
subscribe to the commits, but I will have little to no idea what I see 
in my inbox unless someone explicitly puts a comment in there saying 
"this is gonna break some stuff - look out for XYZ", which obviously 
isn't going to happen (and I wouldn't expect it to).

I saw a little chatter about this on -arch, but I didn't see anything in 
  UPDATING or on this list mentioning the problem was fixed until just 
now.  I never complained, but it might be good practice to keep our 
'watch list' for -CURRENT users to a minimum to help keep the number of 
-CURRENTers up.

Take everything I just said with a grain of salt, I'm just a 'user'.

Eric



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Eric Anderson        Sr. Systems Administrator        Centaur Technology
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