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Date:      Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:43:47 +0200
From:      Mark Stapper <stark@mapper.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)
Message-ID:  <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl>
In-Reply-To: <h5crnd$f9m$1@ger.gmane.org>
References:  <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca>	<20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de>	<4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca>	<200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>	<20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> <h5crnd$f9m$1@ger.gmane.org>

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In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home
on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user should.
The problem herein, i am afraid, lies not with FreeBSD(or any other BSD
flavour), nor with it's community, but with the computer user.
Most computer users see an operating system(and the application they run
most) as part of a computer.
How many people say "My computer is broken" when =B5$ Office doesn't star=
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anymore.
They don't care about which kernel they run, or which browser they use,
they care about typing e-mail, chatting and watching youtube video's.
(However sad it makes me that most people use less then 10% of the
features/programs/potential/computing-power the computer came with, they
do make sure we pay less for our components.)
Even though I'd feel less "cool" or "nerdy" (which is basically the same
thing ;-) ) if I'd run(or USE) the same OS as my 76 year old
grandfather, it would be nice for him to be able to buy a computer for
$20 less because it runs FreeBSD.
To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier:
1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS)
2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date.
And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the
user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say.
Since most people never reinstall their computer, making it easier to
install a basic desktop system won't help my 76 year old grandpa, but it
will make it easier for unsatisfied Windows users to try FreeBSD.
Besides, in making it easy to install a basic desktop system, comes the
hardest part of any *nix like system: defining a basic desktop and
collecting the basic/standard applications.
It's hard just to pick either one Gnome, KDE or XFCE (or iceWM ;-) ) let
alone mail-clients, internet browsers, IM, etc. etc.
One of the advantages of using a descent operating system is the freedom
of choice. However most users don't care!
I am more then happy to tel anyone which e-mail client not to use (Lotus
notes, outlook express, anyone else's neck hears standing up?), but I
don't want to tell people they HAVE to use Thunderbird(I do tell them
they SHOULD but that's different) or evolution etc.
The problem is, most people don't want to make this choice either.
And the circle of life continues.
So basically, to make sure people will be using freeBSD (or any *nix
operating system) it needs to be easy to install (So that
PC-manufacturers will ship their pc's with it), a nicely filled standard
desktop environment with lot's of youtube/chat/word process capabilities
and "I won't bother you with it but i'm updating" functionality.
Just some thoughts..
I'll get back to work now...
=2E..



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