Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 14:48:23 +0200 From: rank1seeker@gmail.com To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Alexander Leidinger" <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc Message-ID: <20101005.124823.093.1@DEV> In-Reply-To: <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <AANLkTikXQmzE4r8wNbxp_Xp7u-5URj66DrOfC1JaK5jA@mail.gmail.com> <20101004122325.11342p9v1rnwp6w4@webmail.leidinger.net> <AANLkTimYCA3rRHgbtjPX=sGHd2mXURHBotNB=KHJi9AR@mail.gmail.com> <20101004123629.GA4308@straylight.ringlet.net> <AANLkTimWMUFrj1OfUVEaPKactWr9sWJhvVW2MfDPSB7T@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com> <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net>
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----- Original Message -----=0D=0AFrom: Alexander Leidinger = <Alexander@Leidinger.net>=0D=0ATo: Gonzalo Nemmi = <gnemmi@gmail.com>=0D=0ACc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org=0D=0ADate: Tue, = 05 Oct 2010 11:34:23 +0200=0D=0ASubject: Re: Improve = OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc=0D=0A=0D=0A> Quoting Gonzalo Nemmi = <gnemmi@gmail.com> (from Tue, 5 Oct 2010 =0D=0A> 01:30:00 +0200):=0D=0A> = =0D=0A> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> = wrote:=0D=0A> >> On 10/4/10, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> = wrote:=0D=0A> >>> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:01:45AM +0000, Paul B Mahol = wrote:=0D=0A> >>>> On 10/4/10, Alexander Leidinger = <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote:=0D=0A> =0D=0A> >>>> > At least = status-mailq is still useful with other MTAs, e.g. if you use=0D=0A> >>>> = > postfix (and assuming the mailwrapper is configured correctly), = this=0D=0A> >>>> > should still work. Depending on the setup of the = aliases,=0D=0A> >>>> > backup-aliases will still work too. I haven't = checked for the other=0D=0A> >>>> > ones.=0D=0A> >>>>=0D=0A> >>>> If you = want to keep some "old" files, you just need to press `n' instead=0D=0A> = >>>> of `y'=0D=0A> >>>> when deleting files. You are not forced to run = make delete-old at all.=0D=0A> >>>=0D=0A> >>> On the other hand, doing = this (skipping those files) on each and every=0D=0A> >>> system=0D=0A> = >>> update (say, on a development or testing machine) could get a bit... = boring=0D=0A> >>> -=0D=0A> >>> not to mention that at some point you'll = learn to "oh, just say no", and=0D=0A> >>> then=0D=0A> >>> forget to = remove something important.=0D=0A> >>=0D=0A> >> Oh! I see... I want it in = black.=0D=0A> >=0D=0A> > Hold your horses there ... get it to work as = expected and then,=0D=0A> > _and_only_then_ you can start raising your = finger and accussing poster=0D=0A> > of bikesheding ...=0D=0A> > As it = stands, _it_sucks_ and I have already pointed it out before=0D=0A> > = without much success (something as useless as telnet wasn=B4t deleted = a=0D=0A> > not so long time ago) ... Peter Pentchev=B4s point was a = completely=0D=0A> > valid one.=0D=0A> =0D=0A> As the one who wrote the = functionailty: The delete-old stuff is =0D=0A> designed to delete stuff = which was installed by an installworld (or =0D=0A> similar) before, but = is not installed by installworld (or similar) =0D=0A> now. As there may = be old programs around which depend upon such a file =0D=0A> or = directory, you have to explicitely tell if you are ok to delete it = =0D=0A> or not (it is the responsability of the administrator to make = sure =0D=0A> everything is OK). If you are sure no program still depends = upon it =0D=0A> (make check-old), you can specify = -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES to delete =0D=0A> everything without being = asked (see "man build").=0D=0A> =0D=0A> As we've read in this thread that = the files I would like to keep are =0D=0A> not installed by an = installworld if the corresponding option is =0D=0A> specified, the patch = is 100% correct and Peter and you want to use =0D=0A> delete-old for = something it was not designed for (and I should discuss =0D=0A> = somewhere else to install the files I talked about even if the =0D=0A> = corresponding option is specified).=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Bye,=0D=0A> = Alexander.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A~2 months ago I've opened a thread called: = Deinstalling parts of base=0D=0ATake a look here:=0D=0A = http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D17860=0D=0A=0D=0ADomagoj=0D=0A
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