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Date:      Tue, 15 May 2007 14:09:23 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To:        Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS DOWN
Message-ID:  <20070515110923.GA4471@kobe.laptop>
In-Reply-To: <f25m78$ik$2@sea.gmane.org>
References:  <20070512153532.GQ21795@elvis.mu.org> <63984.1178992555@critter.freebsd.dk> <f25m78$ik$2@sea.gmane.org>

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On 2007-05-13 02:30, Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr> wrote:
>Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message <20070512153532.GQ21795@elvis.mu.org>, Alfred Perlstein writes:
>>> I like how phk malloc has it as an option.
>> 
>> But notice that it is not an option for programs that runs as root
>> or setuid/setgid etc.
>> 
>> Given the hostility of networks, I would support a more hardcore
>> attitude to memory mismanagement these days.
> 
> Just a data point: many people were turned away from FreeBSD because a
> few PHP releases did a double-free or malloc-inside-signal-handler
> calls. Yes, GNU's malloc should have been stricter, but it's not funny
> when your apache crashes with SIGABORT.

This seems to imply that not crashing would somehow be better.  But I
doubt anybody would be happy if they realized that their PHP randomly
corrupted user data because the system malloc() implementation was not
strict enough.

While I agree that an Apache server crashing is a bar thing, I don't buy
into the mindset that would accept random heap corruption because "not
crashing would be good".

- Giorgos




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