Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:07:01 +0100 From: Mark Ovens <marko@freebsd.org> To: John M <John1mick@cs.com> Cc: "Mark A. Hummel" <mhumm@ispchannel.com>, SoftGuitar@aol.com, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Newbies - an answer to Message-ID: <20000806120701.C257@parish> In-Reply-To: <000901bfff6b$632adc00$57aca9ac@oemcomputer>; from John1mick@cs.com on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:58:44PM -0700 References: <74.1d78bea.26be25db@aol.com> <398CD87D.E4136A33@ispchannel.com> <000901bfff6b$632adc00$57aca9ac@oemcomputer>
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:58:44PM -0700, John M wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> The responses go in waves; some of my questions go unanswered for a
> while, and others get answered right away. I think it depends on how
> busy everyone is.
>
That's an important point Jesse, *no-one* here (on the mailing lists)
is a paid employee of FreeBSD whose role is to answer everyones (or
even every newbies) questions. We are all "volunteers" who do this for
{fun,pleasure,moral obligation}. Consider how much it would cost you
to get support for NT from M$. I saw your post and ignored it because
you gave no useful information at all (kind of like phoning the garage
you bought your car from and saying, "it won't start, what's wrong
with it?", and then complaining when they can't help you).
Anyway, back to your problems. Post some detailed info; are you using
the CDs or FTP? How far have you got?, what error messages are you
getting? If you've got it installed but it doesn't work what is the
output of dmesg(8)?
> THERE is a wealth of info around; the info in the online Handbook didn't
> start to sink in until the second or third reading. Search the FAQ on the
> Web site, too.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark A. Hummel" <mhumm@ispchannel.com>
> To: <SoftGuitar@aol.com>
> Cc: "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Newbies - an answer to
>
>
> > Jesse,
> >
> > I'm really surprised. I too am a newbie and I've never had prior
> experience with
> > FreeBSD. It's been three months now and I've learned a lot. It's
> exciting as
> > long as I don't look too far ahead to see what I have yet to learn.
> >
> > The key is to rely on yourself as much as possible. Have you been to the
> FreeBSD
> > web site? Have you read the online handbook or better yet, bought your
> own copy
> > of Complete FreeBSD? Have you subscribed to the newbies site and posted
> there?
> > It's geared more for us I think. The norm on this listServ (questions) is
> very
> > technically oriented. It's a great listserv, but be specific with your
> questions
> > and limit them to one or two per post.
> >
> > "...trying to install BSD and need some help..." is not specific enough.
> How
> > far have you gotten? How are you installing it, CD ROM or FTP? What kind
> of
> > errors are you getting? I've learned that the more specific the
> question, the
> > quicker and more complete the response. Please understand the people
> (gurus) on
> > this site aren't here to hand hold newbies who aren't doing there part. I
> mean
> > no insult here and am merely speaking in general terms. In fact this is
> the
> > first posting I've seen from you. My intent is to get you excited about
> BSD and
> > perhaps even inspire you to continue your adventure with a real operating
> system
> > that improves every day in response to the people who use it. Not because
> of
> > profits, but of vision (section 1.3.2 of the FreeBSD Handbook 1st
> Edition).
> >
> > FreeBSD is an amazing operating system and as I'm sure you're aware from
> your
> > Unix class, the best OS for those who want to be Internet power users.
> Open
> > Source Software Development (OSSD) is the best method IMO for getting real
> > competition back in the computer industry. Despite what the Microsoft
> drones
> > say, this is the best place to be for true innovation and vision. Hang on
> Jesse
> > and jump in -- the future of high-tech computing is here.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > SoftGuitar@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Sirs,
> > >
> > > I am a newbie with this BSD stuff but so far I have gotten dismal
> response
> > > from anyone...is this natural or common?? I am trying to install BSD and
> need
> > > some hel pfrom anyone in Minneapolis.................I have already
> taken a
> > > full Unix course with the Univ of Minnesota and still have troubles
> > > installing BSD.
> > > Is there a users group in Minneapolis ??
> > >
> > > Jesse Gomez Jr
> > > SoftGuitar@aol.com
> > >
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