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Date:      Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:31:53 -0500 (EST)
From:      Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com>
To:        xavian anderson macpherson <professional3d@home.com>
Cc:        Steve <vandena@ispchannel.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012011530410.529-100000@joe.pythonvideo.com>
In-Reply-To: <001401c05bc8$0c20d900$40461418@salem1.or.home.com>

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If it took you 6 Days to install FreeBSD and have it running with XFree86
then clearly you did not have a clue as to what you were doing. Maybe you
should try rtfm once in a while. I never read them myself at the begining
which is why things too me a  lil longer than they do now.

FreeBSD - The BEST upgrade you can do to NT!

On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, xavian anderson macpherson wrote:

> it didn't take six days to install NT.  I INSTALLED IT IN ONE HOUR, after
> spending six days trying to get freebsd to run.  freebsd was running after
> my first attempt.  i am no idiot.  i tried to install xfree86 version 4.0
> after having first installed version 3.3.6 or whatever it was that was the
> base package.  after trying to do that, i nolonger had use of the
> x-terminal.  i tried to remove the version 4.0, but i got nowhere with that.
> i didn't want to erase everything that i had installed, just to start all
> over again.  i had downloaded over 8 GB's of software from the web. i did
> not want to go through that all over again.
> 
> i got freebsd on SEPTEMBER 30.  i got WINDOWS NT on OCTOBER 5.  after
> removing the linux boot sector on the disk i wanted to use, it took me less
> than one hour to format and install NT.  i have been running it ever since.
> I DON'T WANT TWO SEPARATE OPERATING SYSTEMS, I WANT ONE WHICH WILL GIVE ME
> UNIVERSAL COVERAGE OF BOTH WINDOWS AND UNIX.  THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE
> MICROSOFT IS INTENDING TO DO WITH INTERIX, WHEN THEY PUT IT INTO THE
> SERVICES FOR UNIX PACKAGE.  THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE!  LONG LIVE THE
> HIGHLANDER `GATES'.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve" <vandena@ispchannel.com>
> To: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com>
> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:15 AM
> Subject: Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30, xavian anderson macpherson enlightened us with the following:
> >
> > > i purchased freebsd about two months ago.  i have not yet...
> > <big snip>
> > You don't mention if you read the 800-page handbook...
> > >
> > > i was forced to use the ftp server as my source of installation;
> > <big snip>
> > Why would you want to run an OS on another OS?  Also, why would FreeBSD
> > want to provide "REAL SOLUTIONS for NT"?  I've installed and ran NT at
> > work for the past eight years and have only used FBSD for about 8
> > months.  Give me a FBSD machine over winblows any day.  (And this coming
> > from an MCSE+I)
> > >
> > > NT has something that the standard UFS does not have.  it has an
> integrated
> > <big snip>
> > Have you looked at Exceed by Hummingbird Communications?  And you
> > obviously did not read the info on Windows NT Services for Unix.  And I
> > quote:
> > "The Microsoft Windows NT Services for UNIX Add-On Pack provides access to
> > core interoperability components in an integrated, fully supported
> > package. Benefits include lower deployment costs, improved support for
> > mixed environments, and the most complete integration with current and
> > future Windows NT-based technologies and initiatives."  Bottom line...it's
> > a SERVICE that runs on NT to connect to a Unix machine.
> > >
> > > quite frankly, if i find the means to compile XFREE86-4.0 and gnome for
> NT,
> > <big snip>
> > XFree and Gnome running on NT?  <gasp!!!>  What unix component run under
> > windoze?  I haven't seen any yet that provide the same functionality as on
> > a FreeBSD machine.
> > >
> > <small snip>
> > >to use freebsd.  i installed NT (six days) after becoming thoughroughly
> > >frustated with freebsd.  i need to have a completely functional
> > >heterogenious operating environment.  one which runs windows nt and
> freebsd
> > >on the same computer (preferably with only one filesystem; NTFS
> > >COMPRESSED).
> > I'm curious...how did it take you SIX DAYS to install NT?  If it takes
> > that long to install something that an monkey can be trained to do, why
> > were you trying to install an OPERATING SYSTEM that requires one to know
> > the specifics of their system on top of another operating system that will
> > do a mindless install of it's own?
> >
> > Each OS has it's own particular strengths and weaknesses.  But as I become
> > more and more familiar with FreeBSD, Windows is quickly taking a back
> > seat.  If you have questions, ask them.  There are people here who are
> > very good at providing solutions.  But not when you rant and rave.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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