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Date:      Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:09:12 -0400
From:      Aaron Jeremias Luz <aaron@csh.rit.edu>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ppp-980609: sticky routes not working
Message-ID:  <19980615150912.18011@homenet>
In-Reply-To: <199806122157.WAA23696@awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 10:57:41PM %2B0100
References:  <19980612164027.24793@homenet> <199806122157.WAA23696@awfulhak.org>

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On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 10:57:41PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> The W routes are ``cloned'' routes.  ``netstat'' doesn't bother 
> showing them.  They disappear when the route that they're cloned from 
> disappears - in this case the ``default'' route.
> 
> If you're running in -auto mode with only the sticky route as per 
> your original message, ppp will never bother deleting the default so 
> all the cloned routes will hang around 'till they expire.
> 
> They shouldn't cause any problems.
> 
> If you really want to kill them, you could
> 
>   delete default
>   add default hisaddr
> 
> in ppp.linkdown.
> 
> [.....]
> > is alright for static IP but not for dynamic IP.  Are you cursed
> > with dynamic IP in your area as I am?
> 
> I have the choice - for #27/year, I get a static IP - worth every 
> penny !
> 
> What problems does it cause for dynamic IP ?  Are the cloned routes 
> hanging around despite the gateway IP number changing ?

Well, I've been trying to duplicate the error all weekend without
any success.  I suppose that the problem must have been in something
other than PPP.  No old cloned routes hang around.  The real IP
numbers hang around when the link is down, but I suppose they are
really the best possible guesses for the new dynamic IP numbers.

The only problem I can forsee with this strategy is a dial-up caused
by netstat -r while offline.  Of course, this can be corrected by
your ppp.linkdown suggestion.

Thanks for the nice work,
Aaron Luz

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