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Date:      Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:57:46 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "M. L. Dodson" <bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu>
To:        Jeff Baker <Jeff.Baker@ACADHOTLINE.net.au>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: adopt a newbie program
Message-ID:  <199908271657.LAA21365@beowulf.utmb.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199908271605.BAA00804@bow.portal.net.au>
References:  <199908271605.BAA00804@bow.portal.net.au>

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Jeff Baker writes:
 > Hi ML Dobson,
 >         It's newbie here, I just wanted to thank you for your honest approach.
 >         As a professional support peron (in another computer field) I
 > appreciate your 
 >         comments re time consuming. 
 > 
 >         Only point I would not agree with you on is the researched question
 > point.
 >         Right now I'm hunting for a jibberish dictionary, so I can try and
 > figure out 
 >         the difference between a grep and a psedo-device within a kernel which
 >         I have to re compile so I can find a /dev/rfd0 
 > 
 >         My simple point being, I'm not sure I'm qualified to ask a sensible
 > question just yet.<g>
 > 
 >         Best I can do right now is:
 >         Anyone point me to a simple jibberish dictionary,preferably with
 > some english in it.? 
 >         What about a tech doc on setting up a Freebsd Intranet server.....??
 >         
 > Regards
 > Newbie
 > In the real world trying to break out!
 > or 
 > In the M$ world looking for an alternate lifestyle.......
 > or
 > Choosing between Pain and Bill
 > 
 >         
 > 

Well, since you seem to like the honesty bit, and I have no idea
where to get the dictionary you want, let me attempt to enlighten
you all (you all as we say in the American South, not just you as
an individual) a bit on the deep dark secret to Unix: It is a
difficult operating system to approach as a beginner. (By
beginner I mean someone with no experience in Unix.  You could be
a world's expert on MVS and still be a Unix beginner.)

It is a philosophy of computing as much as a piece of software,
and you have to wrap your brain around WHY it is the way it is
before you will begin to get it.  

Remember, this software was originally designed by people that
knew what they were doing, not by some consumer focus group in
Seattle, Washington, USA, who were concerned about whether the
paper clip should wink or blink.  It is only to be expected that
the concepts should be somewhat subtle.  

After you get the WHY, it comes much faster.  And the end product
is well worth the effort, or we would not all be here doing all
this keyboard pounding. Trust me on this one.

For that there is no substitute for getting some reading
materials and using them.  You understand this and are asking for
pointers to them, and I understand that you are, so this is not
directed at you, per se, but to you all in the sense described
above.

For some, these materials may be the Handbook, Tutorials, and FAQ
at www.freebsd.org, for others, they may be Unix for Dummies
books, for others, something in between like Greg L.'s book.  But
there is no substitute.  No mailing list, no mentor, nothing.
There is no try, there is only RTFM.  

And there is no universal answer as to the right materials to
acquire; you have to find your level on your own, grasshopper.
(Switching metaphors in an Ugly American's attempt at humor for
those who do not get the reference.)  Go to a book store or
library and look around, if you find you need hard copy.

IMO, it is totally unrealistic to believe that you can skip the
acceleration phase of the learning curve for an Unix system.
This is not your father's Windows.  

Choose Pain, not Bill.

-- 
M. L. Dodson                                bdodson@scms.utmb.edu
409-772-2178                                FAX: 409-772-1790


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