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Date:      Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:30:27 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Pete Carah <pete@ns.altadena.net>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Some observations on stream.c and streamnt.c
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20000122132751.01aab6e0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <200001221906.LAA83395@ns.altadena.net>

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At 12:06 PM 1/22/2000 , Pete Carah wrote:
   
>Well, our (Bay) router is rendered silent (doesn't reboot) just 
>routing this attack through itself at around 6k pps.  If aimed at
>the router it gets silent faster but never seems to need a reboot (of
>course, I don't want to try this too long on the particular router).

...

>It is not affected if the attack is against a host (fbsd or mac) on the 
>same segment, so the "side-effect" multicast, etc packets don't seem to 
>be bothering the router, at least not soon...  Don't know what our
>upstream sees :-)

Maybe it's seeing an "internal" storm. That is, the ACK triggers a RST
which is sent to a multicast address which is trapped by the routing
table which triggers an ICMP "unreachable" message which is bounced
internally to... you get the idea.

--Brett



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