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Date:      Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:10:32 +0100
From:      Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>
To:        Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Is this list dead?
Message-ID:  <20010724171032.A60915@jake.akitanet.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010724164231.00bdb960@gid.co.uk>; from rb@gid.co.uk on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:02:03PM %2B0100
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On Jul 24, Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk> wrote:

> http://www.xrefer.com/entry/632785
> 
> "Hide one's light under a bushel:
> Show extreme modesty [etc]"

I still think it's strange. Thanks for explaining though.
 
> Easy: it hasn't climbed high enough up anyone's todo list for it to 
> actually get fixed.

Hmmmm. Well, who knows where my evenings will lead me over the next month or
so then. It seems like an interesting (and valuable) thing to work on. If
you're into that sort of thing. :-)
 
> I suspect (with little supporting evidence) that this is partly due to the 
> different ways people are using clusters in diverse applications. For 
> instance, a lot of the academic work is directed at microdecomposition via 
> message passing, distributed shared memory or what have you. We on the 
> other hand are currently doing some environmental modelling work 
> characterised by large numbers of 30hr runs of a fat nasty FORTRAN program 
> on assorted datasets. Clusters are appropriate in both cases, but different 
> infrastructures are appropriate.

Indeed. I actually want to think about things at a slightly higher level
than that. For me a cluster is a redundant bunch of SQL servers that gives
high-availability. Bit of load-balancing thrown in there, etc.
 
> One indicator I don't much like is that there doesn't seem to be much 
> cluster-related software among the thousands of ports in the ports collection.

The reason I started this thread was because over on -isp people were
talking about vrrpd which is in ports. The idea being that you have a
primary server and when it dies, your backup takes over. Then conversation
led to load balancing, and then to clustering, and now we're here.... ;-)

Like I said over on -isp, I hope to have some time to put into looking at
high-level clustering soon with FBSD. I was just wondering if anybody else
was playing with it or doing anything with clustering as a whole with FBSD. 

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