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Date:      Tue, 8 Mar 2016 22:02:05 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kernel: mps0: Out of chain frames, consider increasing hw.mps.max_chains.
Message-ID:  <20160308190205.GG70809@zxy.spb.ru>
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 10:56:39AM -0800, Scott Long wrote:

> 
> > On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 10:34:23AM -0800, Scott Long wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 02:10:12PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>>>>> This allocated one for all controllers, or allocated for every controller?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It’s per-controller.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I’ve thought about making the tuning be dynamic at runtime.  I
> >>>>>>> implemented similar dynamic tuning for other drivers, but it seemed
> >>>>>>> overly complex for low benefit.  Implementing it for this driver
> >>>>>>> would be possible but require some significant code changes.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> What cause of chain_free+io_cmds_active << max_chains?
> >>>>>> One cmd can use many chains?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Yes.  A request uses and active command, and depending on the size of the I/O,
> >>>>> it might use several chain frames.
> >>> 
> >>> I am play with max_chains and like significant cost of handling
> >>> max_chains: with 8192 system resonded badly vs 2048. Now try 3192,
> >>> response like with 2048.
> >> 
> >> Hi, I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.  You said that you tried 8192, but the system still complained of being out of chain frames?  Now you are trying fewer, only 3192?
> > 
> > With 8192 system not complained of being out of chain frames, but like
> > need more CPU power to handle this chain list -- traffic graf (this
> > host servered HTTP by nginx) have many "jerking", with 3192 traffic
> > graf is more smooth.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The CPU overhead of doing more chain frames is nil.  They are just
> objects in a list, and processing the list is O(1), not O(n).  What
> you are likely seeing is other problems with VM and VFS-BIO system
> struggling to deal with the amount of I/O that you are doing.
> Depending on what kind I/O you are doing (buffered filesystem
> reads/writes, memory mapped I/O, unbuffered I/O) there are limits
> and high/low water marks on how much I/O can be outstanding, and
> when the limits are reached processes are put to sleep and then race
> back in when they are woken up.  This causes poor, oscillating
> system behavior.  There’s some tuning you can do to increase the
> limits, but yes, it’s a problem that behaves poorly in an untuned
> system.

Sorry, I am don't understund you point: how to large unused chain
frames can consume CPU power?



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