Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> To: Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu> Cc: Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>, ac199@hwcn.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@freebsd.org>, hoek@hwcn.org, softweyr@xmission.com, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <199708121244.IAA20610@gatekeeper.itribe.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970811151816.4558A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu>
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Annelise Anderson wrote: > Actually the absence of correlation between inputs and results in > education is rather well established. This basic research, quite > extensive, was done and published by James Coleman (in a book of which > I can't recall the title) some 30 years ago. During the '70s attempts > were made to beat this finding down, with little success. Some studies > in the '80s tried to chip away at it again with new data. In > addition to Coleman there were studies that found no correlation > between student achievement and teacher/student ratio, books in the > library, etc. etc. Fine, send your kids to a school that has: a roof full of holes a curriculum that might offer geometry as it's most advanced math class a lack of textbooks for students to learn from underpaid teachers with little supplies and rescources a library with no books walls that are painted like prisons overloaded cousellers (assuming they even have them) and we'll see how your kids do. You might have time to make up the difference in education that a school described above (there are close to 50 of them in NYC alone that have all the above condidtions), but the average poor person does not. They have no time. They are busy trying to survive, and don't have the education necessary to make up for the lack of education the schools provide. That we have equality of education in america is a lie. That money makes no difference is a lie. Yes, the socio-economic condition of the families of children have a large impact, and the poor are the children who need the most support outside of their families. They are not getting it. My wife has a degree in sociology, and is working on her masters in education. I have this stuff laying around the house. If you want a very clear picture of the worst the american educational system has to offer, read 'Savage Inequalities', I forget the name of the author, but can get it. Jamie Bowden System Administrator, iTRiBE.net
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