Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:14:59 -0600 From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: This just in: Microsoft/Sears Merger Message-ID: <199812230014.SAA09471@n4hhe.ampr.org> In-Reply-To: Message from Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:21:37 MST." <4.1.19981221190632.06ca4f10@mail.lariat.org>
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Brett Glass writes: > At 07:46 PM 12/21/98 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > >Hey wait one second. I just noticed something in Brett's headers: > > > > X-mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > > > >Has Microsoft bought Brett too? OTOH I'd pay for a FreeBSD version of > >Eudora. > > Microsoft hasn't bought me at all. However, some of the machines > we bought for the lab came with, and run, Windows. Intentionally. Hey, this is -chat, and I *had* to rib you. :-) > P.S. -- Don't hold your breath for a FreeBSD version of Eudora. Eudora > uses Microsoft's Internet Explorer to display HTML messages, and attempts > to force the installation of IE when it is installed. So, Qualcomm > probably had to sell its soul to Microsoft to get access to the code. > I managed to keep it from depositing IE on this particular machine, but > the average user won't know to do that. Am not holding my breath for a FreeBSD version of Eudora. But I too would really like even Eudora Lite (no HTML) for FreeBSD. Bought Eudora Pro 2-something, 3.0, and 3.1 on my Mac, Mac version 4.0 arrived yesterday with the Windows 4.1 version to be given as a Christmas gift (Mom wants a spell checker in her email client). IMHO HTML in an email client is a negative in my book. Clicking on a URL in a message to launch a web browser is OK. Until I decide to put my Mac back into place where its connected to my FreeBSD system, my email is being handled by exmh 2.0.2. Am mostly satisfied but not totally. While I've got it working and sorting messages to directories, have never got the sort within a mail folder to work as well as with Eudora. Before exmh I used xfmail 0.3, 0.4, maybe 0.7, and 1.0. Exmh is a memory hog compared to xfmail. Built xfmail 1.3 today. Much improved. Maybe if I can turn off the bold font for email messages it would be worth a try again. And figure out how to control default window sizes. And the dark background colors are depressing. Anyhow, so much for 15 minutes poking around as there is still hope. Does XFmail allow mail folders within mail folders? ~/Mail/freebsd is the root of where I sort FreeBSD list mail. Apparently I have 103 directories under ~/Mail (but only 98 rules in ~/.maildelivery) so a linear list in XFMail isn't pleasant. Noticed XFMail put + signs in front of folders but I couldn't open them. Installed KDE one day. Poked around with it for a while too. A couple minutes with its email client also shows promise. Was thinking for a moment they used Eudora as the UI model. Didn't do much with it as I needed to move my ~/Mail directory out of the way to quiet its complaints. Guess one of the things I really miss in Eudora was the ability to re-wrap quoted email text and retain the "> " on the left side. On the Mac one holds down the option key and selects what was "Wrap Text"... I think. Memory fades. No wait, first you unwrap it and it leaves one quote string at the begining of the new paragraphs, then you wrap again and it reapplies to quote string as appropriate. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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