Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:50:26 +0900 (JST) From: "T.SHIOZAKI" <tshiozak@bsdclub.org> To: dawes@XFree86.Org Cc: tech-x11@netbsd.org, i18n@freebsd.org, tech@openbsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.2 released Message-ID: <20001220.175026.93641215.tshiozak@astec.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20001219165120.S874@XFree86.Org> References: <20001219165120.S874@XFree86.Org>
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From: David Dawes <dawes@XFree86.Org> Subject: XFree86 4.0.2 released Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: <20001219165120.S874@XFree86.Org> > XFree86 4.0.2 is now available. Incredible. You know that we are discussing about an important thing, that is to say, whether 4.0.2 should include Xutf8*, don't you? Please stop distributing it immediately. BTW, Hiura-san, if XFree86 project neither stop distributing 4.0.2 nor revoke Xutf8* from the CVS repository, we should plan a new X distribution project for UNIXen, which has the client set based on SMI's I18N stuffs, which has the server set derived from XFree86 DDX (and also incooperates non-IA32 DDX platforms), and which is more harmonious with some UNIX vendors, X.Org and Li18nux (and of course *BSD), shouldn't we? Aside from Xutf8* being really wrong or not, I feel distrustful about the determining process whether 4.0.2 includes Xutf8*. I wouldn't put it past them to enforce even the locale-elimination advocated by Markus. I'm really afraid of it. So, we would have no choice but to make a drastic cut in the near future, if we should accept Xutf8* now. Xutf8* lacks the user/market points of view in CJK, although this is the gadget for (only a part of) developers to realize (mock) I18N/M17N. The lack is a clear fact as far as I've heard their adovocacies, aside from their technical misunderstanding about I18N/M17N/locale. From the market point of view and my experience in X-TT project, I think the way of transition to Unicode such as SMI's Xlib ("soft landing approach") will be more widely acclaimed from ideographic community (at least Japan). Hiura-san, in the "worst case" I say above, I'll be able to help this project and I wish to mediate between this project and *BSD. -- Takuya SHIOZAKI, Citrus Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message
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