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Date:      Mon, 14 May 2001 18:21:56 +0100
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To:        Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
Cc:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.ORG, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, Kathy Quinlan <katinka@magestower.com>, N6REJ <n6rej@tcsn.net>
Subject:   Re: (was) I'm leaving, now something like "anti official docs rant" :)
Message-ID:  <20010514182156.A22370@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <004901c0dc6a$ef1d1ac0$0300a8c0@oracle>; from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:42:18PM %2B1000
References:  <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> <20010513171444.E26123@welearn.com.au> <00f401c0db7e$ff3ca2a0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> <20010513122623.I97034@lpt.ens.fr> <20010514084709.A68348@welearn.com.au> <024b01c0dc05$b1314fc0$0300a8c0@oracle> <20010514103623.B68348@welearn.com.au> <004901c0dc6a$ef1d1ac0$0300a8c0@oracle>

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On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:42:18PM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
> I'm quite prepared to provide my Pedantic FreeBSD material,=20

I'll need the source (presumably you're using LinuxDoc) and all the
images.

> I made a
> comment earlier about the lack of any form of diagram / graphics /
> screenshot.

The following documents feature diagrams:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd/index.ht=
ml
    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.=
html

When I remember to turn it on in the build, so will

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/vm-design/index.ht=
ml

> Whilst it may be the case that nobody has thought to provide such (as
> you infer), but that seems beyond belief to me ... surely every adult on =
the
> planet has heard about "a picture tells a thousand words".

Some of us just don't have the artistic skills.  If you would like to
submit a picture or diagram to go with any of the documentation, please
do so, preferably using send-pr.

> Maybe I'm just cynical, but I have this feeling that there is an
> unwritten
> commandment "Thou shalt not allow things that make it straightforward
> for newcomers". An example that comes to mind is the age old issue of
> ppp configuration that causes untold headaches for 90% of converts
> from other religions. That ppp_conf.sh shell script that fixes the
> thing in
> 20 seconds flat has been lurking around the place since before JC
> played fullback for Jerusalem, but where is any mention of it found in
> official docs ?? Surely if documentation is meant to show people how
> to
> do stuff its reasonable to expect something as significant as this to
> rate a
> mention ??=20

I've never heard of it before, for one, and=20

    locate ppp_conf.sh

doesn't turn it up.  Details?

> Well I did expect at least some response to my query about "what
> videocards typically work properly all the time", but the deafening=20
> silence so far suggests that the issue is somewhat of a yawn for the=20
> regulars.=20

Or that it's better served by the asking the XFree86 people?

[ F'rinstance -- personally, I'm using a Matrox Millennium II with
XFree86 4.0.3.  I've got no idea if this is a good or bad card, or even
if I've configured it for the maximum amount of speed.  But it does
work. ]

N
--=20
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
FreeBSD Documentation Project           http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

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