Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:15:30 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de> To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <20010711191530.F52923@mail.webmonster.de> In-Reply-To: <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:13:44AM %2B0300 References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@bellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> <3B4A0124.26025FB5@iowna.com> <3B4A1423.E8E365E@mindspring.com> <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr>
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--u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Giorgos Keramidas(keramida@ceid.upatras.gr)@2001.07.10 05:13:44 +0000: > Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes: >=20 > > The base system is not registered into the packages > > system, because of sysinstall. >=20 > It's not installed from /usr/ports but from /usr/src. > I don't know if it's a good idea to have a huge > freebsd_base-5.0-current-20010624 in the packages list, or a zillion > freebsd_base-bin, freebsd_base-etc, etc. installed. this would be too rpm-ish ;-) then you would also catch the dependency problems with 'package foo needs bar2.0; baz4.3 provides bar1.5; need to upgrade baz* to baz4.4; baz4.4 depends on bar2.2; bar2.0 cannot be upgrade because of dependency loop; ...' >=20 > > There are a lot of navigational problems with the code; > > Eric Melville is addressing some of them. >=20 > This is true. >=20 > > The disk partitioning sucks. >=20 > This has worked for me without any problems, but you must have met some t= o say > that it sucks. Can you elaborate on this, instead of throwing a plain 's= ucks' > and hoping that we agree with you? for server installation it would be nifty to have percentual partition size templates and parameter presets for newfs. for the desktop arena we would need something like some buttons: 1) i want to wipe my harddisk and install 2) i want to install on a partition 3) i don't know what i am doing please stop >=20 > > The upgrade process should automatically discover the > > FS mount points. >=20 > Yep. Nice idea. Can we have a patch, please? >=20 > > It's too "chatty". >=20 > And this is too terse a complaint to have any meaning whatsoever. it lacks 'real' message/dialog filtering done with dialog properties >=20 > > The network setup should attempt to obtain a DHCP lease, > > without having to be told to do it, at least for initial > > install. >=20 > No, please don't. > I don't want sysinstall trying to play `smart' behind my back. >=20 > > X11 is a distribution set, instead of a package. >=20 > But... but... I did install only those parts of X11 that I wanted. > I'm not sure I understand this claim. upgrading xf86 is a pain in the ass on a production machine. first you remove all of x with the mtree files (that were not correct for some time) and then you install it from ports ;-) >=20 > > Etc. (I could go on forever). >=20 > Thank you for not doing so. obvious deficiencies of the system need to be addressed. /k --=20 > Vegetarians for oral sex -- "The only meat that's fit to eat" KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7TImxM0BPTilkv0YRAt42AJ9uRMTHFXXiV/R8My6aQx1ijdmepQCeNC5Q V7pMEDx4iKFzwoZrWn1MUl0= =d9OC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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