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Date:      Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:49:25 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk
Cc:        dfeustel@mindspring.com, karsten@rohrbach.de, sepotvin@videotron.ca, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor
Message-ID:  <20010726124924.B96660@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <200107251321.f6PDLK500455@rjspc.genrad.com>; from rjs@genrad.co.uk on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:21:21PM %2B0100
References:  <20010724195941.E5825@dragon.nuxi.com> <200107251321.f6PDLK500455@rjspc.genrad.com>

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0100, Robert Swindells wrote:
> I would suggest that at least two reference platforms are needed.

I personally am not sure about that.  People may have an assumption that
FreeBSD wants to do as Wind River does -- that is WRS natively supports
every commercially available PowerPC or StrongARM board there is.  This
includes non-CPU chipset support.  This is way beyond what FreeBSD can
really do (IMHO).  What FreeBSD can do, is provide a distribution that
runs on the selected FreeBSD selected reference HW.  Those wanting to use
FreeBSD in some embedded application now have a set of bits to start
from.

 
> The Compaq iPAQ is very different to a Netwinder/CATS/DNARD class
> machine since it uses the SA1110 rather than the SA110 + 21285.
 
> If anyone has got one, the Intel IQ80310 board is another potential
> target. Anyone developing new network or server products would use
> the 80310 instead of the SA110.

"if anyone has got one" is the problem.  I spoke with an Intel rep from
their embedded division last night.  They were not able to recommend a
reference board/machine from Intel to use for this because they really
don't have a good offering.


> The iPAQ is extremely developer-friendly IMHO. Compaq CRL do a very
> good job of providing documentation and firmware for it. The same
> firmware also supports the Jornada 720.

I cannot easily put a real keyboard and monitor on an iPAQ can I?  Or use
a serial console?
The issue isn't necessarily how helpful the vendor is, but how easily I
can turn the HW into something that resembles a development computer.
I don't want to have to use graffiti to do toolchain development.

The demos I've seen of the iPAQ you have to use the stylus rather than
mouse.  I did see one very chinsey(sp?) keyboard solution for the iPAQ,
but not the ability to use a real mouse, etc.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)

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