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Date:      Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:00:32 -0400
From:      "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org>
To:        obrien@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org>, Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Alexander Langer <alex@big.endian.de>, current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Can we please remove "green@FreeBSD.org" from the version string? 
Message-ID:  <200108101800.f7AI0Xd83332@green.bikeshed.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>  of "Thu, 09 Aug 2001 09:22:04 PDT." <20010809092204.B2619@dragon.nuxi.com> 

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"David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:08:21PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
> > Seeing as it's directed people to the right maintainer because of it, so 
> > far...  
> 
> And what happens a year from now when you go to college, get engaged,
> and generally not have time for FreeBSD?  Should people still email you
> and possibly get a deaf ear?  People with problems should send-pr them.
> 
> > It's not "portable" OpenSSH, and it's not "OpenSSH running on 
> > FreeBSD", so either we need to have a completely new name for it (FreeBSDSSH 
> > or something), or something that is otherwise descriptive to differentiate 
> > it.  
> 
> That is simply silly.  Our CVS isn't CVS running on FreeBSD, it is CVS
> with FreeBSD localisms.  Our GCC isn't GCC running on FreeBSD, it is GCC
> with FreeBSD'ims.  Our as, ld, dhclient, GNU tar, GNU grep, etc...  Do
> you suggest we rename all of these so as to "descritiptively
> differentiate" them?  The GCC and GDB developers have asked me to _tweak_
> (not rename) the version string to show these have FreeBSD'isms in them.
> That is all that is needed to show something is "special" about our
> versions.

None of those actually report their version numbers over the network and 
expect whatever is reading those version numbers to attempt to decipher them 
and do the right thing according to what it is.

> > It's far removed from being "plain" OpenSSH or "portable" OpenSSH.
> 
> This the "FreeBSD" added to the version string.

How does that differentiate itself from just being "OpenSSH on FreeBSD"?  
It's common for a network application to report part of the uname() in the 
version string, and that's not what this is...


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 Brian Fundakowski Feldman           \  FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!  /
 green@FreeBSD.org                    `------------------------------'



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