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Date:      Sun, 9 Dec 2001 04:12:49 +0100
From:      Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely8.cicely.de>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, "David O'Brien" <dev-null@NUXI.com>, Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, Kirk McKusick <mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Proposed auto-sizing patch to sysinstall (was Re: Using a larger block size on large filesystems)
Message-ID:  <20011209041249.D7042@cicely8.cicely.de>
In-Reply-To: <200112090223.fB92NKf34327@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <20011209003829.C6171@cicely8.cicely.de> <20011209005732.019053808@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20011209025547.B7042@cicely8.cicely.de> <200112090223.fB92NKf34327@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:23:20PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>     Sigh.  Well, I guess it was a mistake in believing that you guys
>     would actually write considered responses to the list (except
>     for Jordan who while I don't agree with his position, at least
>     took some time to think about the issue).  Lets see, what have I
>     heard so far?  Jordan wants a major generification of the mechanism
>     (about a 3 man-day's worth of work.  At least).  Peter and Bernd
>     are posting their favorite (and apparently extremely complex and
>     non-standard) partitioning methodologies, neither of which is

The *non-standard* is still documented in
/usr/share/doc/smm/01.setup/paper.ascii.gz 

Peters layout isn't that different from that documented and mine.
The paper claims different partitions for /usr/src and /usr/obj.
Peter, the paper and me agree that they don't belong onto the /usr
partition itself.
I also softlink them into the right place - usually a network path
as I do buildworlds on a single machine for each architecture.

What realy belongs into an /usr partition is very static in size:
ticso@cicely5# df -k /usr
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0f      183925   132340    36871    78%    /usr

/usr/local and /usr/X11R6 is network shared so it's impractical
to be part of /usr anyway.


An 1.5G /usr might be OK for the usual desktop system and if you
don't want - well you can always change the size to your needs.

But I'm against an /tmp->/var/tmp softlink and I'm against /home
because both are non-standard for good reasons.
I already explained them in my last mail.

If you say /var/home or /var/users and maybe an softlink from /home
we can agree for home.
That way the realpathname remains in /var, /home can easily
replaced with a network volume.

-- 
B.Walter              COSMO-Project         http://www.cosmo-project.de
ticso@cicely.de         Usergroup           info@cosmo-project.de


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