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Date:      Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:27:13 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP:  DEVFS and GEOM mandatorification timeline.
Message-ID:  <20030118222713.GI70151@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030118221308.GH70151@dragon.nuxi.com>
References:  <14715.1042634253@critter.freebsd.dk> <19a601c2bccf$1fdf3850$5a557f42@errno.com> <20030118221308.GH70151@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 02:13:08PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:48:49AM -0800, Sam Leffler wrote:
> > You and I talked about this briefly so I'll just voice my opinion publicly.
> > I believe changes of this sort should wait until _after_ 5.1 is cut.  This
> > assumes that 5.1 is the "performance and stability" release that compels
> > people to move production machines to a 5.x code base.
> 
> Relative to your view, where would the RELENG_5 branch (ie, 5-STABLE) be
> cut?

To possibly make the conversation go faster; I'll assume the answer is we
branch RELENG_5 at 5.1-RELEASE.  f

Let me preface this by saying I highly value and respect your opinions.
The problem is making only the minimal change before the RELENG_5 branch
point will really make MFC'ing harder.  We had a disaster with 4-CURRENT
and RELENG_3 in which we could not MFC critical kernel fixes.  The
Project (as we operate) learned a hard lesson, and I would just like to
remind people of that.

I would like to see a patch from PHK that implements his preference.
Some of us could run that to gain some insight into this issue.

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