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Date:      Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:26:38 -0700
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        threads@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Nvidia, TLS and __thread keyword -- an observation
Message-ID:  <20030618182638.GA63660@ns1.xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <3EF02B40.A4BD1EF@mindspring.com>
References:  <20030617223910.GB57040@ns1.xcllnt.net> <002101c3352a$e931a7f0$0701a8c0@tiger> <20030618003556.GA2440@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <3EF02B40.A4BD1EF@mindspring.com>

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On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 02:05:04AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 07:48:09AM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> > > I believe this will add overhead to thread creating and destroying,
> > > How fast an RTLD can be in this case ?
> > 
> > In the dynamic TLS model you would like to delay the creation of
> > the TLS space. Normally __tls_get_addr() gets used for this. In
> > the static TLS model you allocate the TLS when you llocate the
> > thread control structure.
> 
> Lazy binding in this context doesn't make a lot of sense.

It does. In a process with 1000 threads where 1 thread does
a dlopen(), you don't want to create 999 TLS spaces if they're
not going to be used. Besides time, this also is a space
issue.

Note also that I don't advocate what I think we should do, but
what the specification is designed for. People have put some
thought in it...

-- 
 Marcel Moolenaar	  USPA: A-39004		 marcel@xcllnt.net



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