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Date:      Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:10:04 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Kamal R. Prasad" <kamalpr@yahoo.com>
To:        Gerald Heinig <gheinig@syskonnect.de>, Robert Ryan <rustyryan882000@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3
Message-ID:  <20050107091004.83732.qmail@web52710.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <41DE4F3D.8050509@syskonnect.de>

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--- Gerald Heinig <gheinig@syskonnect.de> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> 
> the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems
> only.
> It says nothing about multiprocessor performance,
> which is what FreeBSD 
> is aiming for.
Doesn't the (ULE) scheduler have a switch to ensure
that performance is optimal on a uniprocessor machine
too?

> It's comparing apples with oranges.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerald
>
Netbsd works for upto 4 processors. So you should be
able to run the same tests on a quad-processor SMP
machine.  

regards
-kamal

> Robert Ryan wrote:
> > Fellow FreeBSD developers,
> > 
> > I hate to say I told you but it was inevitable.
> > 
> > Check this out:
> http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/gmcgarry/
> > 
> > As I predicted more than a year ago FreeBSD 5.3
> has
> > finally lost its only advantage: performance.
> NetBSD
> > 2.0 shows that when you write code the right way
> and
> > end up with SOLUTIONS AND NOT HACKS you have a
> system
> > that works, and works well on all platforms.
> > 
> > This is the consequence of a series of mistakes
> made
> > by the FreeBSD developers, the most important
> being
> > too arrogant and selfish to listen to Matt Dillon,
> the
> > man that warned you all about this. What did he
> get
> > in return? An expulsion from your gentlemen club.
> > 
> > Poul-Henning Kamp has been using FreeBSD to push
> his
> > personal agenda, with completely useless features
> such
> > as GEOM and devfs, instead of concentrating on the
> > real 
> > problem. The fact that your heavily mutexed system
> > doesn't work and never will.
> > 
> > Jeff Roberson's ULE is still broken but don't
> worry,
> > Matt Dillon will be hacking a much better
> scheduler
> > for DragonFly that you can later borrow.
> > 
> > Mike Smith warned you about committee-designed
> code
> > years ago, why don't you listen? Why do you insist
> on
> > this arrogant pose and on treating potential 
> > contributors like pariahs?
> > 
> > Why do you tolerate assholes like Dag-Erling and
> > Poul-Henning?
> > 
> > I hope you can learn something from the NetBSD
> people
> > before it's too late for FreeBSD. They managed to
> do
> > much more with less resources. You should feel
> ashamed
> > of yourselves.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> >           Robert
> > 
> > PS: if I've offended anyone (yeah, I singled a few
> > out)
> > , prove me wrong, but spare me your insultedness. 
> > It's become a pathetic hobby in -core.
> 
> 
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