Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:57:01 +0200 (CEST) From: <pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast Message-ID: <20050427165701.38699.qmail@web51605.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: 6667
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--- Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> wrote: > pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com wrote: > > > - Bad press towards the 5.x series. > > If it doesn't mentions 5.3 explicitely, it doesn't apply. > It was an article that appeared on osnews.com, it mention 5.3 explicitly evreything I read there turned to be false. > > - phk's axe broke one of my favorite ports and I didn't want to spend > > another 6 months "fixing" it. > > You failed to tell which port you are talking about. > Well.. I emailed phk about it and was ignored, the problem was PR'd, and even when I have an ugly workaround for it, the specific port (x11-toolkits/xview) was further broken by make changes. I fixed that port before (not much fun), and while I can accept that things may break, I find the "what I broke is not my problem" attitude unacceptable. > > - I wanted to use XFree86-4 and building it on my own and figuring out the > > library mess later is not an option. > > We still have the XFree86-4 port, and AFAIK it still works (everything else > is a bug). You just have to set a variable in make.conf to make it the > default. > Well.. while updating from 5.2.1 to 5.3 I esentially had to remove all packages and install XFree86-4 (which is not in the ISO). I decided it was easier to move to 4.11. > > - Although outdated, the downloadable java support package was available > > for 4.x only. > > It should work on 5.3-release too. At least there was an effort to get it > working, and AFAIK they succeeded. > hmm the diablo-jdk13 port says: .if ${OSVERSION} >= 502112 ECHO_MSG= ${ECHO_CMD} IGNORE= does not run on FreeBSD >= 5.x .endif > > The next time just remember: Everything is possible, you just have to ask if > you don't know how to do it yourself. > Well..sometimes you just want a stable development environment and to avoid pain if at all possible. I have no use for SMP support (or GEOM) and FreeBSD 4.x has given me so much satisfaction all these years that it was a temptation difficult to resist. Anyway after going to 4.11, the point is.. I do recommend 5.x, it's better than 4.x. While here, let me mention what I think about gcc4.0 and FreeBSD 6.0: FreeBSD 6.0 should be able to be built with gcc 4.x even when it's not a good idea to have it as the default compiler. cheers, Pedro. ___________________________________ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica… Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it
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