Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:41:13 -0700 From: David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org> To: Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: postmaster@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd eclipse plugins & mailing list Message-ID: <20050826014113.GQ26920@bunrab.catwhisker.org> In-Reply-To: <200508251600.10748.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> References: <200508251303.59453.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20050825214804.GA46517@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <200508251600.10748.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>
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[Sorry about cluttering a technical list with administrivia, but it seemed appropriate under the current circumstances. -- postmaster] On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:00:10PM -0700, Vizion wrote: > ... > >> Personally I would be in favor of also creating a > >> freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org mailing list but I am not certain how much > >> interest there might be. If there is enough support I would be willing to > >> help set it up. > > > >You may be willing to help set it up, but only the FreeBSD postmaster(s) > >can actually do so :). I personally don't see enough interest for a > >separate mailing list, > > How can we find if there is enough interest without creating the list? > Eclipse is now a very serious EDI which is suitable for all kinds of > development. Frankly I am dissappointed that freebsd has not been more active > in the eclipse field. The lack of plugin support in the ports tree is a > major deterent. Regardless of the structure of the ports tree or anything else, my basic criterion for new list creation is this: Would creation of the new list help the FreeBSD project more than retaining the status quo would? If the answer is yes, then I am strongly in favor of cretaing it -- to the point that unless someone in core@ or admin@ tells me not to, I will create the list. However, I have been so far "out of the loop" with respect to "development environments" and the like ... well, no; that's not right: I was never "in the loop." What "development" I do (generally in Perl) is done in multiple xterm windows editing files with vi. So: for folks who have an opinion -- persuade me. No, this isn't a "vote;" I don't care about that. Write to me about what the presence of the new list will do for the FreeBSD project ... for good or for ill. Be honest about it. Note that I set Reply-To on purpose -- there's no need to clutter FreeBSD.org technical mailing lists with opinions about the creation of a mailing list. Chances are, I'll create the list -- I recently created one dedicated to the Proliant line of hardware (of all things). So if you can convince me that Eclipse has a following at least comparable to Proliant hardware, you're probably golden. Remember, the salient criterion is "Overall, does creation of the new list help the FreeBSD project?" > I know a number of developers who have moved from freebsd to linux just > because freebsd has not kept up with this very powerful EDI. > Who should I email to request a new list? ( I have cc'd > postmaster@freebsd.org ) I noticed. :-} > If there is no hope then I suppose I could start an independent mail list - > but that idea goes against the grain! Right. I appreciate your restraint. > .... > -- > 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. > English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. > Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after > completing engineroom refit. Heh. Sorry about the need for the refit, but I've tended to have a bit of a "soft spot" for ketches. Not that I've actually sailed one, unfortunately. Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Morning is half over at 0600 hours. I like to accomplish something by then. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for public key.
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