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Date:      Sun, 31 May 2009 20:15:53 +0300
From:      Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Cc:        Manolis Kiagias <sonicy@otenet.gr>, Gary Gatten <Ggatten@waddell.com>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What is this forum for?
Message-ID:  <20090531201553.3aac4b82@it.buh.tecnik93.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905302202450.20032@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References:  <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905281553001.60364@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com> <20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <b79ecaef0905281004h7a1f40cvb65f005d9ebe5318@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905282136080.61809@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE2@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905282157560.62341@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE6@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905282216260.62503@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4A1EF742.7030606@otenet.gr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905282245350.62803@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4A2041ED.4010003@telenix.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905301719100.18381@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4A218A98.4@telenix.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905302202450.20032@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

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On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:09:04 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:

 [ .. ]

> > dealing with humans) is a very unfair tactic in trying to justify
> > any view.
> > What you want to look for is a solution that causes the least
> > problems, and respecting the list rules does that.
>=20
> Where are this rules defined?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etique=
tte.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/

> best with moderation BUT EVEN WITHOUT, but with clearly defined rules
> on webpage it could be efficient.

Let's make a test case: please compare your emails with the rules and
suggestions in above two articles.

We spend a few hours per day *working* on improving FreeBSD, doing also
moderating is just to much.
Besides, we expect people to behave intelligently and politely. Life
keeps contradicting us it seems :-[

> the more clear - the more efficient. possibly some most-common
> examples to make it even clearer.
>=20
> >  It won't fix all problems, but it does
> > keep the noise level on our lists to a minimum, and maximizes the
> > amount of help that can be passed on our lists.
>=20
> Help at all or help about FreeBSD. if at all - then let it be about=20
> everything.
>=20
> >> Another question - some of you said that "outdated" hardware is
> >> welcome too as gifts for FreeBSD team.
> >>
> >> I actually have lots of them, and NON-typical things, that would be
> >> useful. I prepared a list, and can make photos.
> >>
> >> I already sent a mail to one developer but got no response. Maybe
> >> he is just busy or absent, anyway what's the best address for this.

Please contact donations@

> just got this after a day:
>=20
> ---
> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:47:08 +0400
> From: Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru>
> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: sponsoring
>=20
> On Fri, 29 May 2009 22:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>=20
> > you said that "outdated hardware" are very welcome.
>=20
> No, I had never said it. Please, stop spamming me.
>=20
>=20
> ---
>=20
>=20
> OK so fuck off Boris, but we were talking some time ago about dumping=20
> potential sponsors ;)

Watch you language please.

> anyone want to see my mail(s) it was a reply to?

No. Really not. Given the way you behaved in this thread you're one
step away from my killfile.

Maybe you should take a few days and think if all the people
disagreeing here with you are wrong.

--=20
IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user"
  "Intellectual Property" is   nowhere near as valuable   as "Intellect"
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