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Date:      Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:50:53 +0100
From:      phk@freebsd.org
To:        Steve Byan <stephen_byan@maxtor.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, tech-kern@netbsd.org
Subject:   Re: DEV_B_SIZE 
Message-ID:  <2639.1044031853@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:30:18 EST." <4912E0FE-3539-11D7-B26B-00306548867E@maxtor.com> 

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In message <4912E0FE-3539-11D7-B26B-00306548867E@maxtor.com>, Steve Byan writes
:

>I'd appreciate hearing examples where hiding the underlying physical 
>block size would break a file system, database, transaction processing 
>monitor, or whatever.  Please let me know if I may forward your reply 
>to the committee. Thanks.

If by "hide" you mean that there will be no way to discover the
smallest atomic unit of writes, then you are right: it would be bad.

Provided we can get the size of the smallest atomic unit of writes
in a standardized, documented, mandatory way, we will have no problem
coping with it: Using a 4k size is no problem for our current
filesystem technologies and device sizes.

It was my impression that already many drives write entire tracks
as atomic units, at least we have had plenty of anecdotal evidence
to this effect ?

Poul-Henning

(FreeBSD's disk-I/O wizard)

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