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Date:      Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:52:30 -0500
From:      Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com>
To:        FreeBSD-questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Mail readers (was: Re: Portupgrade troubles, interactive ports)
Message-ID:  <2C0C0548-791E-11D8-A66F-000A956D2452@chrononomicon.com>
In-Reply-To: <200403182042.i2IKg2c18484@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
References:  <200403182042.i2IKg2c18484@clunix.cl.msu.edu>

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On Mar 18, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:

> Yup.  I do it manually - just hit that nice big Enter/Return key=20
> between
> a couple of word when I get out around that far.

Which is why, on my mailer, quoting you gives a full line then one word=20=

then a line...it kind of reminds me of a person I knew in college who=20
typed his first multipage essay with the hard linefeeds at the end of=20
each line instead of the end of each paragraph, then made a change near=20=

the beginning and foobar'd his formatting for the whole document... :-)
>
> That's all too complicated.  It is really because many people read
> their mail on text only readers - such as on a console without
> much gui stuff or whatever.   So, the stuff either just wraps at
> lousy places and runs stuff together or it ignores all the html
> or other markup junk that clutters up the message file and splats
> it all out on the screen just as it gets it which is hard to read.
>

In the FAQ (and the conversation I had with the person on the OS X=20
lists), it isn't HTML, and it isn't a GUI thing.  Format=3Dflowed works=20=

in several console programs, from what =10the FAQ said.

Re: HTML, the FAQ said:
No. Nothing. Format=3Dflowed applies solely to plain-text messages. HTML=20=

messages already have something functionally equivalent to f=3Df: the=20
<BLOCKQUOTE> attribute, which... um... quotes blocks of text. When f=3Df=20=

mailers that also can handle HTML encounter <BLOCKQUOTE> text, it=92s=20
usually marked up with the same excerpt bars we=92re familiar with from=20=

f=3Df. Format=3Dflowed isn=92t actually at work there, but since =
<BLOCKQUOTE>=20
text flows nicely when you resize a window, the effect is the same.

> A return in there usuall doesn't mess up the gui Email readers.  They
> tend to ignore it.  But it sure helps text based Email readers.
>

Actually, it is displaying oddly in my MUA...because of the hard=20
returns mixed with the f=3Df.

Incidentally, can others on the list verify where my mail is wrapping? =20=

I was working with someone offlist to see if, in Mail.app, my wrapping=20=

is affected by the size of the composition window when I send the=20
message.  I noticed that quirk in a few other OS X apps when working=20
with printing documents...WYSIWYG taken to an extreme :-=10)

-Bart=



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