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Date:      Sat, 03 Mar 2012 06:18:29 -0300
From:      H <hm@hm.net.br>
To:        Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: flowtable usable or not
Message-ID:  <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br>
In-Reply-To: <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl>
References:  <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <BA7FFA2D-DEE6-4FB7-AE26-0BC79CBFD8C0@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <CACqU3MWx3pMMDncvOita-OAgfe=NPKtwKE2WeB_mdcYwozY81Q@mail.gmail.com> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_O%2BCt6yhRL=B9oxgkL8EgLxZdo7-KFO2C8HqiN1=Kx_bw@mail.gmail.com> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_OfeB7Kb=pgjGq0uffLJdJROGoCaGz=25Jito-kweAxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_MZM6Gn_zPzxz5tLuzPOW=kK9YxqmrLTyitvGfAPhrkbw@mail.gmail.com> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F511496.50106@hm.net.br> <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl>

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Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 03/02/2012 07:42 PM, H wrote:
>> Doug Barton wrote:
>>> ... and here is the crux of the problem. The vast majority of our
>>> developers don't use FreeBSD as their regular workstation. So it has
>>> increasingly become an OS where changes are being lobbed over the wal=
l
>>> by developers who don't run systems that those changes affect. That's=

>>> no way to run a railroad. Doug
>> wow
>>
>> since it is not April 1st it must be revelation's day ...:)
>>
>> is this then the bottomline ?
>>
>> if [ $using_ports=3DYES ]; get_screwed($big_time); fi
>>
>>
> Hey people
>
> There are still a lot of us which might not be smart enough or lack
> the resources to help you debug issues but we still use and depend on
> FreeBSD, and we test, and hopefully give you some debugging hints
>
> I have some production servers running on STABLE  and even some on
> CURRENT to stress our developers, but most run RELEASE and use
> freebsd-update
>
> Keep up the good work, it makes me a more confident sysadmin
> Ports is the best thing happening to me after going through al the apt
> and other stuff

you talk like the wind blows my friend ...

remembering  your own most recent words in another occasion  what
certainly do not match your last sentence ...

>/ On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen at ose.nl <htt=
p://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>> wrote:
/>/  =20
/>/ > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500
/>/ > David Jackson <djackson452 at gmail.com <http://lists.freebsd.org/m=
ailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>> wrote:
/>/ > =20
/>/ > > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages=

/>/ > > on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried:
/>/ > >
/...
>/ > >
/>/ > > All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an
/>/ > > unuseable state. =20
/>/ >
/....
>/=20
/>/=20
/>/ I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to
/>/ compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs
/>/ and would rather install some packages and have it all work right
/>/ away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It=

/>/ should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent=

/>/ versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull
/>/ off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS.  /





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H



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