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Date:      Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:04:18 +0100
From:      Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Yong-Hyeon Pyun <pyunyh@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>, Jack F Vogel <jfv@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: A small fix for if_em.c, if_igb.c, if_ixgbe.c
Message-ID:  <FBA7A484-BFA6-4A9E-B910-5E8CA799DC45@lurchi.franken.de>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomHnQVP9s3EXuNOVwGaB-JiT_imAqzYT_U6PETvR6KMDw@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <521B9C2A-EECC-4412-9F68-2235320EF324@lurchi.franken.de> <201312131326.28952.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAJ-VmokoujrNBO21oOdTuzncamS%2BtAjCUKjt4ywJaySL2rAo6g@mail.gmail.com> <201312131717.10863.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAJ-VmomXPiWbYztWxTDSRJkPcee%2B3pQmUHHk=2U3HG72bcKoyw@mail.gmail.com> <0BC9D25E-639A-4305-A51A-222AE645152C@lurchi.franken.de> <CAJ-VmomHnQVP9s3EXuNOVwGaB-JiT_imAqzYT_U6PETvR6KMDw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 16 December 2013 12:06, Michael Tuexen
> <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
>=20
>>> i agree. if_transmit() should return 0 only if:
>>>=20
>>> * the driver queued it internally and intends to try transmitting it =
later;
>>> * the driver directly dispatched the frame to the hardware.
>>>=20
>>> If it failed to do either of the above, it should return an error.
>>>=20
>>> How's that sound?
>> That sounds good. However, The transport layer is interested in the =
case
>> where if_transmit() returns a non-zero value.
>> Does your statement imply:
>> if_transmit() returns a non-zero value only if the packet will not
>> make it on the wire (for example, it failed to queue it).
>=20
> If there's a queuing layer in the middle then we can't know that for
> certain. If the driver can't transmit the frame (eg it fails because
> of collisions, for example) then again, we can't know that for
> certain.
>=20
> What we can only know is that it was either queued and may or may not
> make it on the wire, or it wasn't queued/transmitted and it definitely
> _won't_ make it on the wire.
Correct. And I'm only interested in the "it wasn't queued/transmitted
and it definitely _won't_ make it on the wire." part.
So I would need something like

if_transmit() returns an error only if it wasn't queued/transmitted
and it definitely _won't_ make it on the wire.

Acceptable for you?

Best regards
Michael
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -a
>=20




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