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Date:      Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:20:07 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Eric Melville <eric@FreeBSD.org>, Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Giorgos Keramidas <charon@labs.gr>
Subject:   Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?)
Message-ID:  <XFMail.011129152007.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <15366.47797.671224.533868@guru.mired.org>

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On 29-Nov-01 Mike Meyer wrote:
> John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> types:
>> On 29-Nov-01 Mike Meyer wrote:
>> > Eric Melville <eric@FreeBSD.org> types:
>> >> This is an excellent point which the most everyone seems to miss these
>> >> days. I find windows very difficult to use as a desktop. Too much
>> >> clicking,
>> >> and not enough tools. So, for windows being user-friendly, I am a user
>> >> too,
>> >> and I don't find it friendly at all.
>> > 
>> > Quite correct. Let's take a very simple but very common task - moving
>> > the focus to another window. The GOMS measure for that in ratpoison is
>> > 1.95 seconds; with Windows I believe it comes out to 3.45 seconds,
>> > meaning using Windows is over 50% slower than ratpoison for that very
>> > common operation. Of course, if there's some other way to move the
>> > focus other than move your hand to the mouse, point at the window and
>> > click on it, those calculations will be off.
>> 
>> Alt-Tab cycles through windows.  It may be off by default though.
> 
> That one's hard to calculate, because you don't know how many windows
> you'll have to go through. On my desktop, it could be as low as 1.55
> seconds, or as high as 10.85 seconds. I'd call it 6.2 seconds as an
> average, meaning it's much worse than any of the other alternatives.

You must hit Alt-Tab slow. :)  You can just bang on it real fast until the
window you want is highlighted. :)  For me that is faster than using the mouse
since I'm used to using the keyboard so much.

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